(January 4, 2014 at 9:15 am)Zen Badger Wrote: So gods child, a question

In your theology a person who has lived a good worthy, sinless life but doesn't believe in your god is going to hell.

But a person who has lied, stolen, raped and murdered all his life but accepts Jesus just before he dies goes to heaven.

And you don't see a problem with this?

No one lives a sinless life, anyone who does not do the will of God sins, it's God's will that all accept Christ as their savior. Salvation is meant for all, so as long as anyone accepts Christ as their savior no matter how badly or how goodly they live, they will have a place in heaven.

GC

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(January 5, 2014 at 12:28 pm)thepractice Wrote: The creation is a mix of good and evil because evil allows for the manifestation of good. Good cannot exist without evil.

Exactly were did you get that understanding from?

GC

(January 6, 2014 at 3:14 am)Godschild Wrote: No one lives a sinless life, anyone who does not do the will of God sins, it's God's will that all accept Christ as their savior. Salvation is meant for all, so as long as anyone accepts Christ as their savior no matter how badly or how goodly they live, they will have a place in heaven.

GC

So in your opinion the multiple murderer and the guy in court for a traffic violation should be given the same punishment?

(January 6, 2014 at 4:55 am)Godschild Wrote: They are not given the same punishment here or in eternity, you have a very misplaced sense of justice if you believe what you stated.

GC

Do I not go to hell when I die for disbelieving, the same as the multiple murderer? Despite my charity work, my love for my family, the fact that I'm essentially a good person, will I not end up in exactly the same place as every killer and rapist and thug who never accepted your god?

Isn't that the deal, here? I mean, it's what you agreed to in the post of yours I quoted.

(January 6, 2014 at 5:09 am)Esquilax Wrote:

(January 6, 2014 at 4:55 am)Godschild Wrote: They are not given the same punishment here or in eternity, you have a very misplaced sense of justice if you believe what you stated.

GC

Do I not go to hell when I die for disbelieving, the same as the multiple murderer? Despite my charity work, my love for my family, the fact that I'm essentially a good person, will I not end up in exactly the same place as every killer and rapist and thug who never accepted your god?

Isn't that the deal, here? I mean, it's what you agreed to in the post of yours I quoted.

Because it's not about justice, or good and evil.
It's only about gods desire to surround himself with fawning toadies and lackeys who will sing his praises all day long.
Because essentially god is a very insecure deity with daddy issues.

Odin on the other hand....much cooler.
And he doesn't need constant reassurance about how wonderful he is.

(January 6, 2014 at 5:09 am)Esquilax Wrote:

(January 6, 2014 at 4:55 am)Godschild Wrote: They are not given the same punishment here or in eternity, you have a very misplaced sense of justice if you believe what you stated.

GC

Do I not go to hell when I die for disbelieving, the same as the multiple murderer? Despite my charity work, my love for my family, the fact that I'm essentially a good person, will I not end up in exactly the same place as every killer and rapist and thug who never accepted your god?

Isn't that the deal, here? I mean, it's what you agreed to in the post of yours I quoted.

I didn't agree to the same punishment, I agreed to the same place, just as a drunk driver spends time in prison, so do murderers, yet their punishments are different, why do you believe hell is any different?

GC

(January 6, 2014 at 9:24 pm)Godschild Wrote: I didn't agree to the same punishment, I agreed to the same place, just as a drunk driver spends time in prison, so do murderers, yet their punishments are different, why do you believe hell is any different?

GC

You wouldn't happen to have a biblical reference for that claim, would you?