That is utter bullshit. The fossil record is a physical phenomena, and in the early 19th century and the advent of large scale mining fossils began to be discovered and shown to scientists that understood the scienitific method. At the time scientists had no adequate means of explaining this curiousities, and thus evolution was developed partly to explain the fossil record. Now the reason the fossil is evidence of the fossil is this. After the discovery of Mendelian Genetic evolution was better understand and inheritance mechanisms became clearer. Because of that clearer understanding scientists were able to use the theory of evolution to predict when fish first emerged for the water to breathe air (late devonian) And then traveled to ellesmere island to find rocks of the apporpiate age and after three years they found tiktaalik
http://tiktaalik.uchicago.edu/
The reason the fossil record is evidence of evolution is because evolution has made accurate prediction about how the fossil record would behave.

Ah, you're making the key mistake of thinking this new canard is something other than a petty, desperate attack from someone who fully realizes their own position is based on nothing, and so is left with only attacking the credibility of the opposite position, as though two people having untenable positions somehow makes his correct by default.

But it also puts us in a strange position, if we take it to be true, where claims aren't evidence, and physical evidence isn't evidence... so what do we possibly have left to take as evidence for claims?

The subtext is, "Now nothing can be verified, I must be right."

(January 7, 2014 at 2:53 am)Esquilax Wrote: Ah, you're making the key mistake of thinking this new canard is something other than a petty, desperate attack from someone who fully realizes their own position is based on nothing, and so is left with only attacking the credibility of the opposite position, as though two people having untenable positions somehow makes his correct by default.

But it also puts us in a strange position, if we take it to be true, where claims aren't evidence, and physical evidence isn't evidence... so what do we possibly have left to take as evidence for claims?

The subtext is, "Now nothing can be verified, I must be right."

And here I just got mad and took it as another round of bullshit from creationists. Thank you for pointing out the whole thing is based on a argument from ingorance, like all creationism.

(January 7, 2014 at 2:53 am)Esquilax Wrote: Ah, you're making the key mistake of thinking this new canard is something other than a petty, desperate attack from someone who fully realizes their own position is based on nothing, and so is left with only attacking the credibility of the opposite position, as though two people having untenable positions somehow makes his correct by default.

But it also puts us in a strange position, if we take it to be true, where claims aren't evidence, and physical evidence isn't evidence... so what do we possibly have left to take as evidence for claims?

The subtext is, "Now nothing can be verified, I must be right."

Posts like this are why your on my Sig

"The fossil record is the claim not the evidence"


Which of the dickheads said that?

*giggles, points at someone whose name rhymes with footers

(January 7, 2014 at 7:57 pm)Minimalist Wrote: "The fossil record is the claim not the evidence"


Which of the dickheads said that?

That's a great question, because it's the sort of stupid shit any of them would have come up with. In this case, it's in Wooters' signature. I just can't tell if that's just what happens when his brain cells create random friction or if he's implying that fossils are manmade.

Would have been my 3d or 4th choice, actually.

Something that stupid is Waldork or G-C class.....or maybe Drippy.

(January 7, 2014 at 7:53 pm)victor4128 Wrote:

(January 7, 2014 at 2:53 am)Esquilax Wrote: Ah, you're making the key mistake of thinking this new canard is something other than a petty, desperate attack from someone who fully realizes their own position is based on nothing, and so is left with only attacking the credibility of the opposite position, as though two people having untenable positions somehow makes his correct by default.

But it also puts us in a strange position, if we take it to be true, where claims aren't evidence, and physical evidence isn't evidence... so what do we possibly have left to take as evidence for claims?

The subtext is, "Now nothing can be verified, I must be right."

Posts like this are why your on my Sig

I went to rep you because.. your sig. Esquilax is also my hero
Oh and Stephen Colbert. And Ryantology. And your avatar. But alas I was your first rep ever. Guess you'll just have to put up with a high five in the face, bunny style

I saw the post where Chad originally shat it out of his brain. I think my eyes were so full of brown in that moment that I had to step away to cleanse them.