(January 12, 2014 at 6:25 am)ronedee Wrote: Is it evil to, "Love and Obey God"?

If he's feeding children to bears for insulting him, yes.

Quote:For "IF" we really did "with all of our hearts, minds, souls and strengths"… we wouldn't even know what evil was.

But you just said in your last post that he isn't necessarily morally good, he's just the strongest, so he can do what he wants. Might makes right doesn't make morally right, and his actions are demonstrably morally wrong.

And you're pretty fucked in the head for endorsing them.

(January 12, 2014 at 6:25 am)ronedee Wrote:

(January 12, 2014 at 6:06 am)MitchBenn Wrote: So you agree he's evil?

…is this a trick question?

"Agree"?!

Is it evil to, "Love and Obey God"?

For "IF" we really did "with all of our hearts, minds, souls and strengths"… we wouldn't even know what evil was.

No, what is evil is what god does to the people who don't agree to kiss his arse.

Tell me Rondee, what's it like being a fanboy of an evil, intolerant arsehole god?

Quote:For "IF" we really did "with all of our hearts, minds, souls and strengths"… we wouldn't even know what evil was.

In that you are still claiming God is good I'd say you already don't. The list of crimes against humanity in the OT is mind-boggling.

(January 11, 2014 at 9:17 pm)Sinnersburninhell100 Wrote:

(January 11, 2014 at 9:03 pm)MitchBenn Wrote: But, again, how do you KNOW he is just?

We know he is just because he gives us a chance for eternal happiness even when we donot desirve it. He is merciful even when ppl kill his followers and is pateint until the day of death for salvation. He punishes evil just as you would punish a bad child by separation from joy. A child sent to their room to think about their evil doings is synonymous with hell.

But you don't know any of that - you have no evidence for any of that.

You just make this shit up and expect rational people to accept it. No, ain't gonna happen.

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(January 12, 2014 at 5:20 am)ronedee Wrote:

(January 11, 2014 at 11:36 am)truthBtold Wrote: God sends forth two bears to kill forty-two children for making fun of Elisha’s bald head (2 Kings 2:23-24). Why would the omnibenevolent God feel the necessity to have two bears viciously maul little children for acting like…children? This is supposed to be the same “wonderful” and “loving” God who promises us eternal life. HMMM.

I don't see any outrage for the tyrant in N. Korea who fed his uncle, and his aides to 125 hungry dogs?

You are such a credulous twat. It took me about 7 seconds to find out that there is no truth to that.

Quote:Only mock outrage for what every atheist says is a book of fiction.

Not mock outrage. The outrage is directed at you, not the book. It is directed at you, you morally bankrupt twat, for not being outraged.

Quote:That's akin to complaining about Dr. Susse feeding green eggs to da poor whittle kiddies!

What a bunch of idiots. Make up your minds. Do you believe the bible or not? If you don't STFU!

“Poor empty pants
With nobody inside them.”
― Dr. Seuss

What a silly simile.

(January 11, 2014 at 9:00 pm)Lek Wrote:

(January 11, 2014 at 3:56 pm)Esquilax Wrote: Hey Lek, are you afraid that if you don't repeat- like some form of magic chant- that god is just every time you have to respond to an example of clear unjust behavior from him, that you'll actually find yourself considering the situation and maybe, just maybe, stop believing it?

The reason that I keep repeating that god is just, is because you all keep saying that a loving god wouldn't do such things. And I keep saying that he's loving because loving beings (such as parents) can administer just punishment to children and still love them. Of course, you disagree with the severity of the punishment, but they were warned specifically what would happen before hand. Every time he'd send out a prophet to warn people they would mistreat and often kill him. We're talking about a crime against God. There's different implications. Yes, God is someone to be feared. It seems like you think that God is a one dimensional cream puff (Yes, I've said this before.), but he's not just what you want him to be. He does punish for wrongs. That doesn't mean he's not loving, but he is the boss. By the way, the passage doesn't say "children", but rather "youths". I'm thinking more likely teens or young adults.

Once again!!! Morally bankrupt!!

(January 12, 2014 at 6:25 am)ronedee Wrote:

(January 12, 2014 at 6:06 am)MitchBenn Wrote: So you agree he's evil?

…is this a trick question?

"Agree"?!

Is it evil to, "Love and Obey God"?

An EVIL god, yes. On what basis do you claim your god is good?

Quote: For "IF" we really did "with all of our hearts, minds, souls and strengths"… we wouldn't even know what evil was.

So you admit you have no idea whether or not your god is good or evil?

(January 12, 2014 at 5:20 am)ronedee Wrote: What a bunch of idiots. Make up your minds. Do you believe the bible or not? If you don't STFU!

We both know that this is just a transparent dodge, but let me spell it out for you, just in case you are so breathtakingly stupid that you think this is a cogent point:

No, I don't believe the bible. But you do, and like I would for holocaust deniers and people who believe in "legitimate rape," I'm here to tell you exactly how fucked up that is.

Consider it a free service from someone much, much further out of the rabbit hole than you. Someone who gets offered the Kool Aid and says, "No, thank you. I'll have booze instead."

(January 12, 2014 at 6:47 am)max-greece Wrote:

Quote:For "IF" we really did "with all of our hearts, minds, souls and strengths"… we wouldn't even know what evil was.

In that you are still claiming God is good I'd say you already don't. The list of crimes against humanity in the OT is mind-boggling.

Let's see if Ronedee can pinpoint the places in the OT where god fucks with the humans.

What parent thinks that a just punishment for their children would be eternal damnation. Loving parents only punish children so they behave better in future.

(January 12, 2014 at 12:40 pm)là bạn điên Wrote: What parent thinks that a just punishment for their children would be eternal damnation. Loving parents only punish children so they behave better in future.

Only a psychopathic & abusive parent would ever even think of exposing their children to hellfire.