(January 14, 2014 at 10:40 pm)BadWriterSparty Wrote:

(January 14, 2014 at 11:01 am)Drich Wrote: Now enter God's description for Himself. "Alpha Omega/The Begining and end to all things." Which means he has the authority to do or be as much of the defination of omni-max God as He wants to be. while at the same time not bound to the defination of Omni-anything.

Think about it, if a deity is bound by the defination of a word or concept is that being all powerful? Vs Having the authority to do what he wants to do?

Can God create a rock so big he can not lift it? An omni-max deity would be in a paradox, The Alpha and Omega could create a rock that big if He wanted to, or couldn't if He didn't want to.. That is the true defination of all powerful.

I expected some hems and haws in response to my sarcastic remark, but I should have known mental gymnastics would actually follow.

What gymnastics? Your whole argument centers around an Omni max God. I simply point out that description is not found in the bible therefore is invalid when speaking of the God of the bible. Then I point out how God describes Himself and what that means.

God didn't describe himself; men scripted Yahweh that way. How do you know the description is accurate? It's obviously flawed, so why do you persist?

(January 11, 2014 at 2:51 pm)Minimalist Wrote:

(January 11, 2014 at 12:14 pm)xr34p3rx Wrote: it really stresses me out when i ask a xian about something and i ask them where they heard about it... their answer is "my pastor told me"... and i try to make them understand why they shouldnt but no, they trust their pastor so much that they will put blind faith before their own mind to figure things out for themselves...

It really isn't their fault. For centuries the church told them "don't even read that stupid fucking book...listen to us."

You know, with sheep the lesson sinks in.

Sounds just like those atheist sites that have turned American atheists into Fundie clones.

(January 14, 2014 at 3:30 pm)Drich Wrote: again God does not claim to be omni benevolent, that is a catholic docrine ascribed to God apart from anything scriptural.

Interesting that god never went to correct that.

Also, now you've got a god that can be judged moral/immoral on the basis of his actions, so now you really do have an immoral god. Yay.

Quote:We are in this life independant of any intervention from God unless we ask for it or by default helping a nonbeliever helps a believer in some form or fashion.

So what about those who do ask for it and get nothing?

(January 14, 2014 at 11:12 pm)Polaris Wrote:

(January 11, 2014 at 2:51 pm)Minimalist Wrote: It really isn't their fault. For centuries the church told them "don't even read that stupid fucking book...listen to us."

You know, with sheep the lesson sinks in.

Sounds just like those atheist sites that have turned American atheists into Fundie clones.

That is quite possibly one of the stupidest things I have ever heard. Can you not tell the difference between rational atheism & irrational fundamentalism?

(January 14, 2014 at 11:39 pm)EgoRaptor Wrote:

(January 14, 2014 at 11:12 pm)Polaris Wrote: Sounds just like those atheist sites that have turned American atheists into Fundie clones.

That is quite possibly one of the stupidest things I have ever heard. Can you not tell the difference between rational atheism & irrational fundamentalism?

When you can show that you actually adhere to rationalism, then I might take you seriously. But since you don't, you can fuck off.

When atheists such as yourself are less rational than a fundie at work who told me dinosaurs roamed the earth 6000 years ago, you know there is a serious fucking problem with atheism in America.

(January 14, 2014 at 11:48 pm)Polaris Wrote:

(January 14, 2014 at 11:39 pm)EgoRaptor Wrote: That is quite possibly one of the stupidest things I have ever heard. Can you not tell the difference between rational atheism & irrational fundamentalism?

When you can show that you actually adhere to rationalism, then I might take you seriously. But since you don't, you can fuck off.

Coming from the Jew-hating race-obsessed proletariat-hating Christian.

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(January 14, 2014 at 11:48 pm)Polaris Wrote:

(January 14, 2014 at 11:39 pm)EgoRaptor Wrote: That is quite possibly one of the stupidest things I have ever heard. Can you not tell the difference between rational atheism & irrational fundamentalism?

When you can show that you actually adhere to rationalism, then I might take you seriously. But since you don't, you can fuck off.

When atheists such as yourself are less rational than a fundie at work who told me dinosaurs roamed the earth 6000 years ago, you know there is a serious fucking problem with atheism in America.

When a socialist like yourself is more obsessed with race than actual fascists you know something is wrong with socialism in America.

(January 14, 2014 at 11:50 pm)EgoRaptor Wrote:

(January 14, 2014 at 11:48 pm)Polaris Wrote: When you can show that you actually adhere to rationalism, then I might take you seriously. But since you don't, you can fuck off.

Coming from the Jew-hating race-obsessed proletariat-hating Christian.

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(January 14, 2014 at 11:48 pm)Polaris Wrote: When you can show that you actually adhere to rationalism, then I might take you seriously. But since you don't, you can fuck off.

When atheists such as yourself are less rational than a fundie at work who told me dinosaurs roamed the earth 6000 years ago, you know there is a serious fucking problem with atheism in America.

When a socialist like yourself is more obsessed with race than actual fascists you know something is wrong with socialism in America.

I don't hate Jews. And next time you want to lie about it, you piece of shit, I won't go easy on you just because you're retarded.

(January 14, 2014 at 11:53 pm)Polaris Wrote:

(January 14, 2014 at 11:50 pm)EgoRaptor Wrote: Coming from the Jew-hating race-obsessed proletariat-hating Christian.

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When a socialist like yourself is more obsessed with race than actual fascists you know something is wrong with socialism in America.

I don't hate Jews. And next time you want to lie about it, you piece of shit, I won't go easy on you just because you're retarded.

If you don't hate the Jews why do you tell lies to smear Israel & the Jewish people?

(January 14, 2014 at 11:54 pm)EgoRaptor Wrote:

(January 14, 2014 at 11:53 pm)Polaris Wrote: I don't hate Jews. And next time you want to lie about it, you piece of shit, I won't go easy on you just because you're retarded.

If you don't hate the Jews why do you tell lies to smear Israel & the Jewish people?

Being anti-Zionism, is not anti-Jewish, just like being against Obama, does not mean you're against the black. It just means you're anti-conservative.