(January 25, 2014 at 1:53 am)EgoRaptor Wrote: I am pure British ....

German exile, then.

Yes, try hard to pretend you are not, we won't be fooled, by your own admission you need to be destroyed.

(January 25, 2014 at 1:00 am)Kitanetos Wrote: Germany itself was never the real problem. One single man, who fooled and manipulated the masses, was the problem, however.

Um, I don't know who taught you history - but Hitler joined the Nazi movement - he didn't create it....

I have to point out your hypocrisy to you, Ego. Being a hater of any geological location and its denizens is just as idiotic as patriotism, and just as narrowminded.

(January 25, 2014 at 1:21 am)Kitanetos Wrote: Expanding on my rubbish comment, clearly everyone was not aware of what an evil man had been elected. Had those who were caught been aware of what was happening, they would have fled and not been caught. As it was, too many of them were caught because they were quite unaware of what was happening.

I really don't think this is true. I also think (with good reason) there was quite a substantial effort on the part of the victors to overlook the role of the German people in what their leaders did. That's why we have the narrative today that Hitler's charisma was virtually supernatural and that he enthralled an entire people who would, otherwise, never have gone along with such depravity.

The truth is, a huge number of Germans were already quite okay with virulent anti-Semitism, and even for those who weren't, he made his views clear very early on and only pretended to be anything else when outsiders were paying attention. There were certainly a lot of Germans who really did just suffer the Nazis in silence, but no man can do what Hitler did without the willing approval and enthusiastic complicity of a substantial number of Germans.

You have to remember, the Nazi party had more than twenty years to mold the people into what they wanted. Rarely was there significant resistance to this. Because, in the end, the German people of the time wanted what Hitler wanted.

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(January 25, 2014 at 2:37 am)Aractus Wrote:

(January 25, 2014 at 1:00 am)Kitanetos Wrote: Germany itself was never the real problem. One single man, who fooled and manipulated the masses, was the problem, however.

Um, I don't know who taught you history - but Hitler joined the Nazi movement - he didn't create it....

For all intents and purposes, he was the man most responsible for creating the Nazi Party. The original founders, and their intentions, were marginalized very early on.

(January 25, 2014 at 2:44 am)Kayenneh Wrote: I have to point out your hypocrisy to you, Ego. Being a hater of any geological location and its denizens is just as idiotic as patriotism, and just as narrowminded.

Don't mind her Egoraptor, she just loves them because they were "co-belligerents" during WWII.

(January 25, 2014 at 1:33 am)EgoRaptor Wrote: I would never love a German.

Oh no, but we were off to such a good start!

This thread is full of win. Germany, one of the most politically moderate countries in Europe today, has a genocidal culture - check

Nietzsche, who explicitly states his adoration for the jewish people in his texts, would have been a-ok with the gas chambers - check

There is no need to compare the shoah to what happened in the americas to acknowledge that it was genocide. Doesn't matter whether you *feel* that it wasnt - super!

That being said, the idea that Hitler had magical charisma that singlehandedly made the Germans do all these things, is bizarre. Europe went into the first world war in a strange state of mind, where many, not only in Germany, were practically waiting for it. After that, the fact that Germany (like Japan) had a rather militaristic culture, in combination with the Versailles treaty and general crisis, did the rest.The Germans of the time absolutely longed for a possibility to regain their pride, prosperity, and Hitlers way to these goals was seductively simple.

This is (at least) the second time that EgoRaptor has called for the destruction of Germany on this board. I predict that EgoRaptor will one day be severely beaten by a German.

Boru

(January 25, 2014 at 3:11 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Don't mind her Egoraptor, she just loves them because they were "co-belligerents" during WWII.

Don't mind him EgoRapror, he just loves himself and all True TurksTM, the rest of the world is filled with undermensch, who should be wiped off the face of the earth.

Am I the only one who would derive entertainment from an entire thread wherein only Ego and Mehmet debate?

(January 25, 2014 at 6:17 am)Kayenneh Wrote:

(January 25, 2014 at 3:11 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Don't mind her Egoraptor, she just loves them because they were "co-belligerents" during WWII.

Don't mind him EgoRapror, he just loves himself and all True TurksTM, the rest of the world is filled with undermensch, who should be wiped off the face of the earth.

How very German of you all...