(February 26, 2014 at 3:43 am)fr0d0 Wrote:

(February 25, 2014 at 9:57 pm)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: Yes, just not his actions in my fantasies.

Fixed that for you

I was under the impression that the divinity of scripture was your fantasy. If not, then sorry I underestimated your intelligence.

Several people have mentioned killing children but have not given specific biblical texts. Frankly, large numbers of Christians don't know much about the contents of their bible. Here are two examples of many.

Quote:Go and attack the Amalekites and completely destroy everything they have. Don't leave a thing; kill all the men, women, children, and babies; the cattle, sheep, camels, and donkeys. (1 Samuel 15:3)

To be precise, the word translated "babies" means "nursing infants" in the Hebrew.

Quote:Babylon, you will be destroyed.
Happy are those who pay you back
for what you have done to us—
who take your babies
and smash them against a rock. (Psalm 137:9)

The first six verses of this are much quoted (By the rivers of Babylon we sat down and wept ...) but not the conclusion.

(February 26, 2014 at 5:15 am)Esquilax Wrote:

(February 26, 2014 at 4:31 am)fr0d0 Wrote: No one has substantiated any objection successfully, yet you, so adamant that we shouldn't judge without empirical data, are willing to make an exception in this instance.

Can a guy not assess the actions of a fictional character, now?

The point is that the christian god's actions are laid out in the bible, and that many of those actions are demonstrably immoral. In order for you to find him good, therefore, you must either be ignoring those actions, willfully disregarding them, or employing some form of special exemption in order to maintain your claim that god, as described in the only source you have for his existence, is morally good.

If it's the latterest case, jeez, that's close to moral relativism.

Now that's willful ignorance, and strict duplicity.

You use two standards to judge religion: science when assessing God as something that should exist as hard fact, according to you and idiots like you (creationists, for example), and a very unscientific approach to interpreting the exact meaning of biblical text.

Demonstrably



Me thinks your science is weak young padawan

(February 26, 2014 at 11:10 am)xpastor Wrote: Several people have mentioned killing children but have not given specific biblical texts. Frankly, large numbers of Christians don't know much about the contents of their bible.

Some do know and still insist that it's not only good but deserving of praise and glory.

These are people that need padded cells.

Fr0d0,

I have to ask this in all seriousness.

If God really appeared before you and instructed you to murder someone would no part of you question your own sanity?

Surely it must at least cross you mind that you might be having a schizophrenic attack?

Assuming this possibility does occur - what would you do next?

Suppose the demand was worse than merely murdering an individual. Suppose, just for example, God asked you to fly a plane into a building?

Would being asked that raise some questions as to your own sanity?

(February 26, 2014 at 2:47 pm)max-greece Wrote: Fr0d0,

I have to ask this in all seriousness.

If God really appeared before you and instructed you to murder someone would no part of you question your own sanity?

Surely it must at least cross you mind that you might be having a schizophrenic attack?

Assuming this possibility does occur - what would you do next?

Suppose the demand was worse than merely murdering an individual. Suppose, just for example, God asked you to fly a plane into a building?

Would being asked that raise some questions as to your own sanity?

Well it'd disprove everything I believe, but ignoring that....

Of course I would think I was insane. I'd present myself immediately to the nearest psychiatric hospital.

If I really was insane, or I really did think I saw what I saw, the outcome would be equally condemned by everyone, unless some others also knew of its validity... So how would you tell? I could be saving humanity, or existence, and your be thwarting my plan by obstructing me.

A core part of my belief is cross checking for validity. Crazies will be crazies no matter what.

(February 26, 2014 at 4:05 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:

(February 26, 2014 at 2:47 pm)max-greece Wrote: Fr0d0,

I have to ask this in all seriousness.

If God really appeared before you and instructed you to murder someone would no part of you question your own sanity?

Surely it must at least cross you mind that you might be having a schizophrenic attack?

Assuming this possibility does occur - what would you do next?

Suppose the demand was worse than merely murdering an individual. Suppose, just for example, God asked you to fly a plane into a building?

Would being asked that raise some questions as to your own sanity?

Well it'd disprove everything I believe, but ignoring that....

Of course I would think I was insane. I'd present myself immediately to the nearest psychiatric hospital.

If I really was insane, or I really did think I saw what I saw, the outcome would be equally condemned by everyone, unless some others also knew of its validity... So how would you tell? I could be saving humanity, or existence, and your be thwarting my plan by obstructing me.

A core part of my belief is cross checking for validity. Crazies will be crazies no matter what.

If a new law came out that stated that priests can molest children only if its done in churches.. would you be ok with that??

(February 26, 2014 at 4:09 pm)truthBtold Wrote: If a new law came out that stated that priests can molest children only if its done in churches.. would you be ok with that??

If a new law came out that loons like you were allowed out in public would I be OK with that.

(February 26, 2014 at 4:05 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Of course I would think I was insane. I'd present myself immediately to the nearest psychiatric hospital.

On what basis do you make this determination?

(February 26, 2014 at 4:42 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:

(February 26, 2014 at 4:09 pm)truthBtold Wrote: If a new law came out that stated that priests can molest children only if its done in churches.. would you be ok with that??

If a new law came out that loons like you were allowed out in public would I be OK with that.

Hard to answer a dumb question.. now u see how dumb it is when u use that fairy tale book to measure what right or wrong.. GROW A PAIR!!