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I'm not leaving until I convert someone.
#61
RE: I'm not leaving until I convert someone.
My dad presented something interesting to me. When atheists shout an explictive, they say "Oh my god!", not something like "Oh my allah!" Also he told me he once heard a preacher was in Vietnam and talking to a bunch of atheists. They said they didn't believe in God, yet later all came crying claiming they wanted to accept Jesus into their heart. My mom says everyone at one point gets a chance to be introduced to Christ.
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#62
RE: I'm not leaving until I convert someone.
(February 27, 2014 at 7:02 pm)Cato Wrote: Don't be concerned. I'll be in charge when you get there.

Hmmm.. We may have to have an awesome gladiator fight to determine that Wink
When I was young, there was a god with infinite power protecting me. Is there anyone else who felt that way? And was sure about it? but the first time I fell in love, I was thrown down - or maybe I broke free - and I bade farewell to God and became human. Now I don't have God's protection, and I walk on the ground without wings, but I don't regret this hardship. I want to live as a person. -Arina Tanemura

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#63
RE: I'm not leaving until I convert someone.
(February 27, 2014 at 7:01 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:
(February 27, 2014 at 6:59 pm)JesusLover1 Wrote: Because I'm worried you guys are going to hell!

In your other thread, you asked for "Bad Things in the New Testament".

Hell.

Infinite punishment for finite crimes.

One need look no further.

Checkmate.

Man chooses hell by his own actions.
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#64
RE: I'm not leaving until I convert someone.
(February 27, 2014 at 7:03 pm)JesusLover1 Wrote: My mom says everyone at one point gets a chance to be introduced to Christ.

everyone ? even these kids ?

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#65
RE: I'm not leaving until I convert someone.
(February 27, 2014 at 7:03 pm)JesusLover1 Wrote: My dad presented something interesting to me. When atheists shout an explictive, they say "Oh my god!"

That's a poor generalization. I use, "Oh Loki!", "Jesus Christ in a picnic basket", "Fuck, wank, bugger, shitty arsehead and hole", "Perkele [which for your information is a Finnish god]" and "Oh dear".
When I was young, there was a god with infinite power protecting me. Is there anyone else who felt that way? And was sure about it? but the first time I fell in love, I was thrown down - or maybe I broke free - and I bade farewell to God and became human. Now I don't have God's protection, and I walk on the ground without wings, but I don't regret this hardship. I want to live as a person. -Arina Tanemura

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#66
RE: I'm not leaving until I convert someone.
(February 27, 2014 at 7:03 pm)JesusLover1 Wrote: My dad presented something interesting to me. When atheists shout an explictive, they say "Oh my god!", not something like "Oh my allah!" Also he told me he once heard a preacher was in Vietnam and talking to a bunch of atheists. They said they didn't believe in God, yet later all came crying claiming they wanted to accept Jesus into their heart. My mom says everyone at one point gets a chance to be introduced to Christ.

So, your dad not only makes silly claims but makes up stories.

Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:

"You did WHAT?  With WHO?  WHERE???"
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#67
RE: I'm not leaving until I convert someone.
Atheism:
The belief that there was nothing and nothing happened to nothing and then magically exploded creating everything and then a bunch of everything magically rearranged itself for no reason what so ever into self-replicating bits which then turned into dinosaurs.
Makes perfect sense.
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#68
RE: I'm not leaving until I convert someone.
(February 27, 2014 at 7:04 pm)JesusLover1 Wrote:
(February 27, 2014 at 7:01 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: In your other thread, you asked for "Bad Things in the New Testament".

Hell.

Infinite punishment for finite crimes.

One need look no further.

Checkmate.

Man chooses hell by his own actions.

In your theology...

Who created hell?

Who can destroy it if he wants?

Who can change the rules so thought crimes don't get people sent there?

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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#69
RE: I'm not leaving until I convert someone.
(February 27, 2014 at 7:03 pm)JesusLover1 Wrote: My dad presented something interesting to me. When atheists shout an explictive, they say "Oh my god!", not something like "Oh my allah!" Also he told me he once heard a preacher was in Vietnam and talking to a bunch of atheists. They said they didn't believe in God, yet later all came crying claiming they wanted to accept Jesus into their heart. My mom says everyone at one point gets a chance to be introduced to Christ.
The first part of what you said has to do with our culture. "Oh my God" is a common saying in our culture, and it's hard to break the habit of saying it. Sometimes we do say something like "Oh my Gaia" instead, though.

The next part of what you said is a second-hand story at best. Have you ever played telephone? When a story is passed on it is always distorted in some way, which happened at least twice in your example. Take into account people's general tendencies to not be truthful, exaggerate, etc., and the story just doesn't hold any weight.

Of course everyone gets a chance to get introduced to Christ in this country, Christians are the majority and they pursue total indoctrination relentlessly. However, some people like me are going to reject religion no matter how many times they are given the chance to embrace it.
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#70
RE: I'm not leaving until I convert someone.
(February 27, 2014 at 7:07 pm)Simon Moon Wrote:
(February 27, 2014 at 7:04 pm)JesusLover1 Wrote: Man chooses hell by his own actions.

In your theology...

Who created hell?

Who can destroy it if he wants?

Who can change the rules so thought crimes don't get you sent there?

Who created hell? Satan.
Who can destroy it if he wants? God lets man choose to go there if he wants. He's just giving an option for those who don't accept Jesus.
Who can change the rules so thought crimes don't get you sent there? God cannot change what he said, he is a man of his word.
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