1. You don't accept the dogma. In your own language, I would hope that if you were sick you'd go see the doctor.

2. I just go on the evidence

Number 2 leaves us wondering what your evidence is.

Healthy people don't need a doctor.

Who said that?

(February 28, 2014 at 5:58 pm)Bad Writer Wrote: Number 2 leaves us wondering what your evidence is.

Of esq not understanding what has been clearly explained to him?

(February 27, 2014 at 8:05 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: He wouldn't forgive you even if that forgiveness was unjust? Oh wait... He does that

He would prevent you from choosing to harm yourself? Ah you got me ...he doesn't do that :/

There really is no condemnation for a genuine failure to understand. There is condemnation for deliberate deceit.

This is better than human law where ignorance is no defence.

You wouldn't find an atheist here who with impossible illogical evidence wouldn't believe. ...No let's not even go there. hudders:

I guess God is much bigger than that.

/re-open

Let's see what you're claiming here:

God prevents self harm, by which I assume you mean suicide?

God doesn't punish the ignorant? So if we have heard your claim God exists, and still require evidence, and don't accept Jesus Christ due to a lack of evidence, and he still sends us to hell, you define that as "not punishment"?

We've been asking you theists to provide some evidence for God's existence, and suddenly because you don't have evidence to support your claim, we are at fault?

Are you really this dense?

Also, why didn't you reveal this bit about being psychic before?

lol

Suicide? Nope

If you are ignorant: think there should be material evidence of the immaterial, then God not punishing the ignorant would be you not going to hell

You are not at fault for your mental incapacity. See above.

Here's mine: thanks


So Frodo, do you agree that God is something on-board?

(February 28, 2014 at 6:11 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:

(February 28, 2014 at 5:58 pm)Bad Writer Wrote: Number 2 leaves us wondering what your evidence is.

Of esq not understanding what has been clearly explained to him?

If you're afraid that we will reject your evidence, then you're probably right. That should tell you that it was probably never true evidence to begin with. Please prove us wrong about this though; we welcome new evidence!

(February 28, 2014 at 3:15 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Salvation isn't a delayed promise, it's immediate. Your sins are forgiven. Passed over as if you didn't do them. Now. This minute. Immediately. You are no longer separated from God : in Hell, dead. Not dead in the future. Dead now this minute, as a result of your separation. "Life eternal" is immediate, and momentary. If it wasn't how is it possible to sin after being saved, ...."Sin" also being separated from God? How it it possible to lose salvation, To no longer believe? Hell/ death/ separation from God/ punishment are an immediate result of sin. Life/ salvation/ forgiveness of sin are likewise immediate.

The bible is inspired by God. It isn't written by God. It's Gods word. It is potentially errant, bit this far not proven to be errant. No one on this forum or anywhere else has ever successfully challenged it. It would be a lie to say they had.

"Eternal" it's an inaccurate translation of the source. It is more accurately translated as "a very long time". "God will bring all things to himself". Death cannot defeat God.

So that's why the priests feel free to do whatever they want to little boys. They were saved. Immediately. Anything they do from then on, is just .... covered in Christs' blood.
Is that what you're saying Fr0d0? That any sins anyone makes after accepting Jesus as the son of god as a sacrifice for sins, are non-sins? Don't matter? They'll still get to go to heaven?

(February 28, 2014 at 11:24 pm)Luckie Wrote:

(February 28, 2014 at 3:15 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Salvation isn't a delayed promise, it's immediate. Your sins are forgiven. Passed over as if you didn't do them. Now. This minute. Immediately. You are no longer separated from God : in Hell, dead. Not dead in the future. Dead now this minute, as a result of your separation. "Life eternal" is immediate, and momentary. If it wasn't how is it possible to sin after being saved, ...."Sin" also being separated from God? How it it possible to lose salvation, To no longer believe? Hell/ death/ separation from God/ punishment are an immediate result of sin. Life/ salvation/ forgiveness of sin are likewise immediate.

The bible is inspired by God. It isn't written by God. It's Gods word. It is potentially errant, bit this far not proven to be errant. No one on this forum or anywhere else has ever successfully challenged it. It would be a lie to say they had.

"Eternal" it's an inaccurate translation of the source. It is more accurately translated as "a very long time". "God will bring all things to himself". Death cannot defeat God.

So that's why the priests feel free to do whatever they want to little boys. They were saved. Immediately. Anything they do from then on, is just .... covered in Christs' blood.
Is that what you're saying Fr0d0? That any sins anyone makes after accepting Jesus as the son of god as a sacrifice for sins, are non-sins? Don't matter? They'll still get to go to heaven?

(Bolded by me)

They use it for lube.