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How many of you are secular?
March 13, 2014 at 2:46 pm
(This post was last modified: March 13, 2014 at 2:55 pm by Gooders1002.)
To all my Brothers and sisters of faith, how many are you are secular?
Your secular if you mostly believe:
- There should be no established state religion.
- Everyone is equal before the law, regardless of religion, belief or non-belief.
- The judicial process is not hindered or replaced by religious codes or processes.
- Freedom of expression is not restricted by religious considerations.
- Religion plays no role in state-funded education, whether through religious affiliation of schools, curriculum setting, organised worship, religious instruction, pupil selection or employment practices.
- The state does not express religious beliefs or preferences and does not intervene in the setting of religious doctrine.
- The state does not engage in, fund or promote religious activities or practices.
- There is freedom of belief, non-belief and to renounce or change religion.
- Public and publicly-funded service provision does not discriminate on grounds of religion, belief or non-belief.
- Individuals and groups are neither accorded privilege nor disadvantaged because of their religion, belief or non-belief.
Source: http://www.secularism.org.uk/secularcharter.html
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful" - Edward Gibbon (Offen misattributed to Lucius Annaeus Seneca or Seneca the Younger) (Thanks to apophenia for the correction)
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Know more about the world than I knew yesterday and lessen the suffering of others. You'd be surprised how far that gets you' - Neil deGrasse Tyson
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RE: How many of you are secular?
March 13, 2014 at 2:57 pm
There are probably some atheists who aren't secular, but I would assume most are. I could be wrong, though.
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RE: How many of you are secular?
March 13, 2014 at 3:04 pm
(March 13, 2014 at 2:57 pm)Chad32 Wrote: There are probably some atheists who aren't secular, but I would assume most are. I could be wrong, though.
I would agree with you there, but I am not asking Atheists.
Though feel free to add if your not and explain why.
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful" - Edward Gibbon (Offen misattributed to Lucius Annaeus Seneca or Seneca the Younger) (Thanks to apophenia for the correction)
'I am driven by two main philosophies:
Know more about the world than I knew yesterday and lessen the suffering of others. You'd be surprised how far that gets you' - Neil deGrasse Tyson
"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." - Mark Twain
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RE: How many of you are secular?
March 13, 2014 at 3:05 pm
(March 13, 2014 at 2:46 pm)Gooders1002 Wrote:
- There should be no established state religion.
- Everyone is equal before the law, regardless of religion, belief or non-belief.
- The judicial process is not hindered or replaced by religious codes or processes.
- Freedom of expression is not restricted by religious considerations.
- Religion plays no role in state-funded education, whether through religious affiliation of schools, curriculum setting, organised worship, religious instruction, pupil selection or employment practices.
- The state does not express religious beliefs or preferences and does not intervene in the setting of religious doctrine.
- The state does not engage in, fund or promote religious activities or practices.
- There is freedom of belief, non-belief and to renounce or change religion.
- Public and publicly-funded service provision does not discriminate on grounds of religion, belief or non-belief.
- Individuals and groups are neither accorded privilege nor disadvantaged because of their religion, belief or non-belief.
Hell yes! Where do I sign up? Because the country we have is supposed to be this way, but is far from it.
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RE: How many of you are secular?
March 13, 2014 at 3:06 pm
Sorry. I notice you did say to all your brothers and sisters of faith.
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RE: How many of you are secular?
March 13, 2014 at 3:12 pm
(March 13, 2014 at 3:06 pm)Chad32 Wrote: Sorry. I notice you did say to all your brothers and sisters of faith.
I was primarily looking for answers from the religious, but Atheists who are not secular can answer as well.
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful" - Edward Gibbon (Offen misattributed to Lucius Annaeus Seneca or Seneca the Younger) (Thanks to apophenia for the correction)
'I am driven by two main philosophies:
Know more about the world than I knew yesterday and lessen the suffering of others. You'd be surprised how far that gets you' - Neil deGrasse Tyson
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RE: How many of you are secular?
March 13, 2014 at 3:20 pm
(March 13, 2014 at 3:12 pm)Gooders1002 Wrote: (March 13, 2014 at 3:06 pm)Chad32 Wrote: Sorry. I notice you did say to all your brothers and sisters of faith.
I was primarily looking for answers from the religious, but Atheists who are not secular can answer as well.
Try a christian forum.. this thread will be short
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RE: How many of you are secular?
March 13, 2014 at 9:30 pm
Do I believe that we live in this sort of society? No, I'm not retarded. Do I wish for this? Well, no shit.
I hate the bible. I love that do as thy whilst stuff.
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RE: How many of you are secular?
March 16, 2014 at 12:05 am
Going by that list, yes...why yes, I am. 
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RE: How many of you are secular?
March 16, 2014 at 12:12 pm
(This post was last modified: March 16, 2014 at 12:13 pm by Fidel_Castronaut.)
Everyone, theist or atheist, should espouse the OP. Secularism is the only tried and tested way to see the best chance of equality in state craft and the political/judicial sphere.
As a member of the national secular society, I can tell you that a lot of theists are also secularists. Secularism, after all, was a Protestant invention after the 30 years war at Westphalia.
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