Hey guys, my name is Discipulus. I want to teach you about love and self-denial, the way Jesus taught me. I'd like to share with you my bat shit crazy ideas about the Universe and specifically, the most important thing in it, humanity. First off, children are born with evil forces inside them that only Jesus can cure. And if you don't give them my Jesus potion soon enough, they are going to burn in hell forever and forever. Anyway, back to the love bit. That's what my beliefs are really about.

(March 15, 2014 at 11:16 am)Napoléon Wrote:

(March 15, 2014 at 10:35 am)discipulus Wrote: You have the same attitude that the people who picket funerals have. An attitude of hate.

How are you any different than they? In the same way they are disrespectful you are disrespectful. You return evil for evil, cursing for cursing, hate for hate. But hate begets hate and violence begets violence.

What will mocking someone's beliefs accomplish but make you look like a mocker? What will cursing and bitter words get you? What credit is it to you if you act as the very one's you condemn.

Surely you know that the only way to overcome hate is through love.

Enough with the hippy bullshit. Seriously. Come down from cloud cuckoo land and live in reality.

I don't treat disrespect with love. I treat it as it should be treated, with disdain. Respect is earned not given. I do not picket funerals. I think the people who do are retarded and I have every right to mock them for it. Mockery and criticism of certain actions are important and constructive in many instances. It can highlight things that are wrong with society, encourage people to speak up and speak freely. Hate begets hate? Violence begets violence? You a Jedi or something? Do you actually believe this churned out bullshit? Might as well start quoting Ghandi.

FYI there is a difference between mockery and hate. Criticism != hate.

You treat disrespect with disrespect. You return hate for hate and evil for evil. It is your very train of thought that people use as justification for doing the very things you condemn.

But this is not surprising. It is easy to live the way you do. Hating and mocking people. Its easy to do that.

It takes virtue, humility, love, patience, and self denial to esteem others more highly than yourself.

You may not picket funerals but your words written here in this forum are spoken without respect, without humility and without love. Out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks. You are no different than those you condemn.

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(March 15, 2014 at 12:15 pm)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: Hey guys, my name is Discipulus. I want to teach you about love and self-denial, the way Jesus taught me. I'd like to share with you my bat shit crazy ideas about the Universe and specifically, the most important thing in it, humanity. First off, children are born with evil forces inside them that only Jesus can cure. And if you don't give them my Jesus potion soon enough, they are going to burn in hell forever and forever. Anyway, back to the love bit. That's what my beliefs are really about.

It is crazy to you no doubt. For you too are filled with bitterness and hatred. It oozes from everything you say.

It is easy to speak as you do. To mock and ridicule. Children do it in school quite often. It is called bullying.

It takes far more courage and virtue to love and to return good for evil, blessing for cursing.

What merit do you have for living the way you do?

(March 15, 2014 at 10:03 am)discipulus Wrote: Regardless of one's beliefs, you should love them. You may disagree with the doctrine, that is fine. But you should still respect them and honor them as fellow human beings. As much as is in your power you are to live at peace with all men. We all know this is the right way to live. If we know it and fail to do it, we have no one to blame but ourselves.

Counterpoint: That sounds like too much hippy shit for me as well.

(March 15, 2014 at 11:48 am)heathendegenerate Wrote:

(March 15, 2014 at 11:16 am)Napoléon Wrote: Enough with the hippy bullshit. Seriously. Come down from cloud cuckoo land and live in reality.

I don't treat disrespect with love. I treat it as it should be treated, with disdain. Respect is earned not given. I do not picket funerals. I think the people who do are retarded and I have every right to mock them for it. Mockery and criticism of certain actions are important and constructive in many instances. It can highlight things that are wrong with society, encourage people to speak up and speak freely. Hate begets hate? Violence begets violence? You a Jedi or something? Do you actually believe this churned out bullshit? Might as well start quoting Ghandi.

FYI there is a difference between mockery and hate. Criticism != hate.

I wish I spoke retard, just so I can comprehend what the hell he's saying! Love cures all.. awwww... isn't that sweet? If you can welcome the "fact" that a lack of god means a lack of respect, you can become one with JEBUSSSS.. lord of the skies.. impotent schmuck of lore. I hate this shit, so much. Love is the remedy! awww.. let me toke up and join this guy in this rational discussion. Be right back.. in all seriousness, if you think hate is what happens when you fail to "break free from the darkness", well, the sane know love comes when you "break free from retardation".. that's respect earned.

Hate consumes you. It is your master and you are its slave because you cannot say or do otherwise.

You speak of respect and how it is to be earned, but you yourself are disrespectful. You acknowledge that being respectful is good but by your very words prove yourself to not be good but evil.

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(March 15, 2014 at 12:21 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote:

(March 15, 2014 at 10:03 am)discipulus Wrote: Regardless of one's beliefs, you should love them. You may disagree with the doctrine, that is fine. But you should still respect them and honor them as fellow human beings. As much as is in your power you are to live at peace with all men. We all know this is the right way to live. If we know it and fail to do it, we have no one to blame but ourselves.

Counterpoint: That sounds like too much hippy shit for me as well.

Label it what you will, love is love. Hate is hate. A tree is known by the fruit it bears.

Can people gather grapes from thorn bushes?

(March 15, 2014 at 12:17 pm)discipulus Wrote: It is crazy to you no doubt. For you too are filled with bitterness and hatred. It oozes from everything you say.

Nothing I say even compares to the barbarism and psychopathy contained in the book you claim to base your life around.

Quote:It is easy to speak as you do. To mock and ridicule. Children do it in school quite often. It is called bullying.

I think the term your looking for is Christianophobia. And bullying? LOL...Isn't that the easy retort for an oversensitive adult-child who still hasn't grown out of his egotistical fantasies?

Quote:It takes far more courage and virtue to love and to return good for evil, blessing for cursing.

What merit do you have for living the way you do?

I can happily say I did my duty for mankind in discrediting his worst ideas at every opportunity presented.

Christians think people need to be commanded to live a life of sacrifice and love, out of a rule book. I think most people are inherently good but have the capability of not doing good deeds.
But, Christianity thinks it has the market cornered when it comes to the idea of sacrifice and self denial. Meanwhile, well over half of Americans classify themselves as Christian yet there's so much poverty in the states?

Yes. Soooo much sacrifice and self denial going on there.

Meanwhile, Christian conservatives are staunchly against socialism. Lol You know. The concept of seeking what is good for the whole and not just the individual.

Jesus if you believe the story, was the quintessential Socialist.

Oh the irony.

(March 15, 2014 at 12:26 pm)Pickup_shonuff Wrote:

(March 15, 2014 at 12:17 pm)discipulus Wrote: It is crazy to you no doubt. For you too are filled with bitterness and hatred. It oozes from everything you say.

Nothing I say even compares to the barbarism and psychopathy contained in the book you claim to base your life around.

Quote:It is easy to speak as you do. To mock and ridicule. Children do it in school quite often. It is called bullying.

I think the term your looking for is Christianophobia. And bullying? LOL...Isn't that the easy retort for an oversensitive adult-child who still hasn't grown out of his egotistical fantasies?

Quote:It takes far more courage and virtue to love and to return good for evil, blessing for cursing.

What merit do you have for living the way you do?

I can happily say I did my duty for mankind in discrediting his worst ideas at every opportunity presented.

Your duty for mankind is to insult, mock, and ridicule?

You then justify this evil by calling it duty?

How are you any different than the one's you judge to be worthy of disdain and hate and mockery?

Discipulus thinks one can be both a Christian and love anything in or about this world. His blatant hypocrisy is obvious to everyone but him.

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(March 15, 2014 at 12:28 pm)discipulus Wrote:

(March 15, 2014 at 12:26 pm)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: Nothing I say even compares to the barbarism and psychopathy contained in the book you claim to base your life around.

I think the term your looking for is Christianophobia. And bullying? LOL...Isn't that the easy retort for an oversensitive adult-child who still hasn't grown out of his egotistical fantasies?

I can happily say I did my duty for mankind in discrediting his worst ideas at every opportunity presented.

Your duty for mankind is to insult, mock, and ridicule?

You then justify this evil by calling it duty?

How are you any different than the one's you judge to be worthy of disdain and hate and mockery?

The only way to confront the ridiculous is with ridicule. How am I different? It's very easy. I'm not judging your thoughts and intentions and condemning you to hell for them. I'm only judging your words, which at this point, deserve all the scorn and mockery they've received.

(March 15, 2014 at 12:27 pm)Deidre32 Wrote: Christians think people need to be commanded to live a life of sacrifice and love, out of a rule book. I think most people are inherently good but have the capability of not doing good deeds.
But, Christianity thinks it has the market cornered when it comes to the idea of sacrifice and self denial. Meanwhile, well over half of Americans classify themselves as Christian yet there's so much poverty in the states?

Yes. Soooo much sacrifice and self denial going on there.

It is impossible for men by an exercise of will to deny themselves, to die daily to themselves and live for the sake of others for love.

The numerous evils of the world are evidence to this. People covet so they kill, they love pleasure so they use drugs and commit fornication, they lie to get ahead, they mock to insult, degrade to lift themselves up.

If I return evil for evil, cursing for cursing, violence for violence, hate for hate then I am no different than the one who murders or steals or rapes or lies.

A tree is known by the fruit it bears.

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(March 15, 2014 at 12:29 pm)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: Discipulus thinks one can be both a Christian and love anything in or about this world. His blatant hypocrisy is obvious to everyone but him.

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(March 15, 2014 at 12:28 pm)discipulus Wrote: Your duty for mankind is to insult, mock, and ridicule?

You then justify this evil by calling it duty?

How are you any different than the one's you judge to be worthy of disdain and hate and mockery?

The only way to confront the ridiculous is with ridicule.

Why not confront it with reason and charity?

Ridicule might make you feel good about yourself, but how is it edifying to the one you ridicule?

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(March 15, 2014 at 12:29 pm)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: Discipulus thinks one can be both a Christian and love anything in or about this world. His blatant hypocrisy is obvious to everyone but him.

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(March 15, 2014 at 12:28 pm)discipulus Wrote: Your duty for mankind is to insult, mock, and ridicule?

You then justify this evil by calling it duty?

How are you any different than the one's you judge to be worthy of disdain and hate and mockery?

The only way to confront the ridiculous is with ridicule. How am I different? It's very easy. I'm not judging your thoughts and intentions and condemning you to hell for them. I'm only judging your words, which at this point, deserve all the scorn and mockery they've received.

Because I say we should love one another?

This merits scorn and mockery?

(March 15, 2014 at 12:33 pm)discipulus Wrote:

(March 15, 2014 at 12:29 pm)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: Discipulus thinks one can be both a Christian and love anything in or about this world. His blatant hypocrisy is obvious to everyone but him.

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The only way to confront the ridiculous is with ridicule.

Why not confront it with reason and charity?

Ridicule might make you feel good about yourself, but how is it edifying to the one you ridicule?

Well, apparently it has some effect. I can only hope that in spite of yourself, the seeds of doubt have been planted.

Quote:Because I say we should love one another?

This merits scorn and mockery?

No because you act like an ignoramus who thinks that none of us are aware of decency and love, which Christianity can only claim at the most surface level of understanding. This thread is about Christ-insanity, not love and peace and butterflies.