(March 27, 2014 at 7:40 pm)Alex K Wrote: My brain hurts, use moar grammar plz. I asked you for the definition of the threshold you are interested in, that's what you got. Science is used as ideology? How?

modern psychology does not know the causes of many illnesses like multiple personality disorder and scitzophernia. and you did not answer my question about the moon or dinosaurs.

(March 27, 2014 at 7:23 pm)jimmyk2190 Wrote: your right i make a mistake. but god did great the earth ex nihilo

That's one of the theistic claims that atheism rejects without the evidence to support it.

(March 27, 2014 at 7:23 pm)jimmyk2190 Wrote: and atheism does focus mainly on the three western religions does it not.

Not really. Atheism is the null position of "you make the claim, now support it and we'll let you know". If the three western religions get the most attention, it's the fault of the followers of those religions.

(March 27, 2014 at 7:23 pm)jimmyk2190 Wrote: atheism does not believe nothing religion can be replaced with nationalism patriotism egaliartism or in this case science. just because a person is irreligious or secular does not mean they do not subscribe to some ideology

Not sure what you're saying here. If you're saying that atheism doesn't believe in nothing, then you're correct. I can't unpack the rest of what you said.

(March 27, 2014 at 7:54 pm)Stimbo Wrote:

(March 27, 2014 at 7:23 pm)jimmyk2190 Wrote: your right i make a mistake. but god did great the earth ex nihilo

That's one of the theistic claims that atheism rejects without the evidence to support it.

(March 27, 2014 at 7:23 pm)jimmyk2190 Wrote: and atheism does focus mainly on the three western religions does it not.

Not really. Atheism is the null position of "you make the claim, now support it and we'll let you know". If the three western religions get the most attention, it's the fault of the followers of those religions.

(March 27, 2014 at 7:23 pm)jimmyk2190 Wrote: atheism does not believe nothing religion can be replaced with nationalism patriotism egaliartism or in this case science. just because a person is irreligious or secular does not mean they do not subscribe to some ideology

Not sure what you're saying here. If you're saying that atheism doesn't believe in nothing, then you're correct. I can't unpack the rest of what you said.

atheism cannot explain how the earth was formed. Atheism also takes sort of an aggressive position i fell that if they were more diplomatic in their approach they would get somewhere But still there are flaws in what they belive scientifically
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism

(March 27, 2014 at 6:56 pm)jimmyk2190 Wrote:

(March 27, 2014 at 6:55 pm)Alex K Wrote: Ask ImaginaryFriend, she's the expert.

thats fair i totally agree with you religion is bullshit but why so serious towards my question. what were the properties of the first cell. theres no denying that things would be better with atheism but why can't you answer my question. also what is the origin of the moon. and how did the dinosaurs die. it is well documented that dinosaurs did exist and well that nullifies the bible for me but if atheism is a relationship with reality please explain these things

But it's common sense. Everybody knows the universe couldn't have come from nothing, because we've never observed a universe beginning to exist from nothing, just like we've never observed a Crocoduck.

1. God exists
2. Evolution doesn't exist
3. Therefore Intelligent Design is the only answer
4. God exists
5. God exists
6. God exists
7. The universe was created by God
8. God created the universe

Which one of my premises don't you agree with? You can only choose one!

CHECKMATE ATHEISTS!

(March 27, 2014 at 7:57 pm)Rampant.A.I. Wrote:

(March 27, 2014 at 6:56 pm)jimmyk2190 Wrote: thats fair i totally agree with you religion is bullshit but why so serious towards my question. what were the properties of the first cell. theres no denying that things would be better with atheism but why can't you answer my question. also what is the origin of the moon. and how did the dinosaurs die. it is well documented that dinosaurs did exist and well that nullifies the bible for me but if atheism is a relationship with reality please explain these things

But it's common sense. Everybody knows the universe couldn't have come from nothing, because we've never observed a universe beginning to exist from nothing, just like we've never observed a Crocoduck.

1. God exists
2. Evolution doesn't exist
3. Therefore Intelligent Design is the only answer
4. God exists
5. God exists
6. God exists
7. The universe was created by God
8. God created the universe

Which one of my premises don't you agree with? You can only choose one!

CHECKMATE ATHEISTS!

i don't believe in god and your asking for proof which I'm not saying that i have but when i ask you how the moon was formed somebody gets mad. By the way its called the god particle what are its properties ?????

(March 27, 2014 at 7:56 pm)jimmyk2190 Wrote: atheism cannot explain how the earth was formed.

Because atheism does not try to do that. You're getting it confused with science.

(March 27, 2014 at 7:56 pm)jimmyk2190 Wrote: Atheism also takes sort of an aggressive position i fell that if they were more diplomatic in their approach they would get somewhere But still there are flaws in what they belive scientifically
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism

Why did you go to the clearly objective and infallible Wikipedia to tell us what atheism is instead of, say, asking some atheists? I'm sure there's one around the place somewhere.

(March 27, 2014 at 8:03 pm)Stimbo Wrote:

(March 27, 2014 at 7:56 pm)jimmyk2190 Wrote: atheism cannot explain how the earth was formed.

Because atheism does not try to do that. You're getting it confused with science.

(March 27, 2014 at 7:56 pm)jimmyk2190 Wrote: Atheism also takes sort of an aggressive position i fell that if they were more diplomatic in their approach they would get somewhere But still there are flaws in what they belive scientifically
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism

Why did you go to the clearly objective and infallible Wikipedia to tell us what atheism is instead of, say, asking some atheists? I'm sure there's one around the place somewhere.

in what way do atheists critique religion(math and science) nobody is saying those are bad things.

Are you sure you quoted the right post? I don't think I ever mentioned maths and science, at least in the way you reference.

(March 27, 2014 at 8:00 pm)jimmyk2190 Wrote:

(March 27, 2014 at 7:57 pm)Rampant.A.I. Wrote: But it's common sense. Everybody knows the universe couldn't have come from nothing, because we've never observed a universe beginning to exist from nothing, just like we've never observed a Crocoduck.

1. God exists
2. Evolution doesn't exist
3. Therefore Intelligent Design is the only answer
4. God exists
5. God exists
6. God exists
7. The universe was created by God
8. God created the universe

Which one of my premises don't you agree with? You can only choose one!

CHECKMATE ATHEISTS!

i don't believe in god and your asking for proof which I'm not saying that i have but when i ask you how the moon was formed somebody gets mad. By the way its called the god particle what are its properties ?????

(March 27, 2014 at 7:44 pm)jimmyk2190 Wrote:

(March 27, 2014 at 7:40 pm)Alex K Wrote: My brain hurts, use moar grammar plz. I asked you for the definition of the threshold you are interested in, that's what you got. Science is used as ideology? How?

modern psychology does not know the causes of many illnesses like multiple personality disorder and scitzophernia. and you did not answer my question about the moon or dinosaurs.

Modern science does not know the difference between schizophrenia and religious belief. Modern science also cannot explain why elephants are larger than the moon and dinosaurs.

Checkmate atheists!

(February 20, 2014 at 4:47 pm)Stimbo Wrote: The all-knowing WikiHow reveals the three necessary stages for converting unbelievers. It's aimed specifically at xtians, but I suppose any flavour theist can play.

Be advised, however, that some of the steps might take you out of your comfort zone, notably the ones about being open and honest and using reliable counter-evidence. But then small is the gate and narrow the road, and only a few find it.

At first I thought 'wow, this is actually not bat shit crazy!' but it went down hill from there.
It would be funny to make a spoof of this, where the well meaning Church of Satan tries to convince a christian to find Lucifer.
Same cheesy pictures and layout, of course.