(April 12, 2010 at 1:34 pm)Loki_999 Wrote: Sorry, can't talk, mouth full of shit.

Perhaps you should cut back on the anilingus then... assuming you don't care for having your mouth full of shit :S

(April 11, 2010 at 6:12 pm)The Piper Wrote: A belief in God will cramp their style, it will infringe on their freedom.

You think we atheists have become atheists... just for the fucking fashion?

The Piper Wrote:It will cause them to become narrow minded and dare I say it, "religious". The negative connotations associated with the subject of religion could easily conjure up a 10,000 word essay. It's not cool to revere and worship God. "I don't need God, I can do it on my own". It's easier to be arrogant than to be humble, humility requires a great deal of effort, too much effort for most.

I shouldn't have to inform you that worshipping an all-mighty idiot is never cool. Sorry, we do have standards and self-respect here, and so should you. You're more moral than your first-born murdering God-concept that is unfit for reverence.

The Piper Wrote:I am a sinner just like everybody else, but I stand in awe of God. Life is so short and we are so fragile.

Yes, life is short and fragile, which is all the more reason not to waste it by subscribing up to evidence-free beliefs and dogmas.

The Piper Wrote:Don't waste your life by simply feeding your own ego. Make some room for God in your heart and he will make room for you in the next life.

Then why have this life Piper? Why even mourn those who are dead? If your God-concept meant for life to really begin when you're dead and gone then what's the point of being alive? Why be living on Earth when you could be dead in Heaven aka candyland? It completely negates this preachy "grand design and ultimate purpose" mystification nonsense you've been spouting out for the last paragraph; by your own omission there is no purpose in this short-lived life at all.

According to Christians this life is a test though. Be a good little boy/girl, say your prayers, do as God says, and he will let you into heaven. If not, then its off to the firey pits of hell. Do as I say or else be punished is the party line and it worked for many centuries when we humans had the morality and social awareness of children.

But humanity is slowly growing up and taking a better look at the world around themselves, and slowly but surely we are becoming a little bit less the child, passing through the teenage years, and maybe not before too long we will emerge as young adults and all of us will start to take full responsibility for our actions. At which point gods become completely obsolete as humans will not longer feel the need to blame/praise something else for their own actions.

Welsh Cake - you hit one of the fundamental flaws of religion on the head with your comment about people mourning for dead people. True believers should have a party in celebration when someone they know dies. They have gone to candyland and are now having the time of their life... or death. Of course, unless you believe that person has gone to hell, then mourning i suppose would be appropriate, but on the other hand, who are we to argue with God's decision? If you have lived a good life as well then you also can look forward to joining your friend/family member in the afterlife, doing whatever it is that dead spirits do for the rest of eternity.

This to my mind is the single biggest flaw (besides the joke that is the Bible and Yahweh/Jesus/Holy Spirit himself/themselves) with the whole thing, and a true believer should behave more like the Abbot of Ampleforth, who when told by Cardinal Basil Hume that he was dying the abbot was delighted and said: "Congratulations! That’s brilliant news. I wish I was coming with you."

Was he a true believer? Certainly seems like it. Any theists care to comment?

I've often pondered why is it that if christians honestly believed what they are saying, they don't do all that ritualistic stuff accepting Jesus yadda yadda....

...then off themselves.

Really. Eternity in paradise and all that. Why wait?

'Tis why if anyone wants to see what a TRUE believer looks like and acts, then look at the fundie muslims. The're actions speak louder than the words offered up by xtians.

For a more detailed explaination of this ponderance, see HERE.

Daniel Dennett has a whole chapter of his book 'Breaking the Spell' dedicated to 'Belief in Belief' such as that.

EvF

(April 13, 2010 at 8:53 am)Dotard Wrote: I've often pondered why is it that if christians honestly believed what they are saying, they don't do all that ritualistic stuff accepting Jesus yadda yadda....

...then off themselves.

Really. Eternity in paradise and all that. Why wait?

I've often wondered why devout believers don't kill their children. I mean, don't parents always say they only want the best for their kids? And won't any parent do anything for their kid's well being? Well, what's better than eternity in paradise? If parents truly believe what they profess to believe, they should kill their kids before the little tykes get a chance to grow up and sin. This ensures they will be admitted to heaven! What if your kid grows up to become a criminal and he winds up in hell? Then it's YOUR FAULT because you could have prevented it if only you would have dispatched them when they were a child.

Makes perfect sense to me....

(April 13, 2010 at 9:35 am)Thor Wrote:

(April 13, 2010 at 8:53 am)Dotard Wrote: I've often pondered why is it that if christians honestly believed what they are saying, they don't do all that ritualistic stuff accepting Jesus yadda yadda....

...then off themselves.

Really. Eternity in paradise and all that. Why wait?

I've often wondered why devout believers don't kill their children. I mean, don't parents always say they only want the best for their kids? And won't any parent do anything for their kid's well being? Well, what's better than eternity in paradise? If parents truly believe what they profess to believe, they should kill their kids before the little tykes get a chance to grow up and sin. This ensures they will be admitted to heaven! What if your kid grows up to become a criminal and he winds up in hell? Then it's YOUR FAULT because you could have prevented it if only you would have dispatched them when they were a child.

Makes perfect sense to me....

And that's truly frightening. This proves atheists are not as bright as they profess to be. If a Christian believes in heaven, why would they kill their own kids and end up in hell themselves for committing this act?

(April 13, 2010 at 12:06 pm)AngelThMan Wrote:

(April 13, 2010 at 9:35 am)Thor Wrote:

(April 13, 2010 at 8:53 am)Dotard Wrote: I've often pondered why is it that if christians honestly believed what they are saying, they don't do all that ritualistic stuff accepting Jesus yadda yadda....

...then off themselves.

Really. Eternity in paradise and all that. Why wait?

I've often wondered why devout believers don't kill their children. I mean, don't parents always say they only want the best for their kids? And won't any parent do anything for their kid's well being? Well, what's better than eternity in paradise? If parents truly believe what they profess to believe, they should kill their kids before the little tykes get a chance to grow up and sin. This ensures they will be admitted to heaven! What if your kid grows up to become a criminal and he winds up in hell? Then it's YOUR FAULT because you could have prevented it if only you would have dispatched them when they were a child.

Makes perfect sense to me....

And that's truly frightening. This proves atheists are not as bright as they profess to be. If a Christian believes in heaven, why would they kill their own kids and end up in hell themselves for committing this act?

1. If a Christian parent kills their kid, it's covered because they accept Jesus as their Lord and Savior. All sins are forgiven, are they not?
2. Why not kill a child before it has a chance to sin and possibly not accept Jesus? It's a free ticket to heaven for the child, and the parent will meet them there as well.

I really don't understand why this isn't viewed as an extremely moral act. if you could give your child EVERLASTING BLISS AND REWARD, why not do it?

Quote:I really don't understand why this isn't viewed as an extremely moral act. if you could give your child EVERLASTING BLISS AND REWARD, why not do it?

They have that whole 'Thou shalt not kill' clause to worry about.

(April 13, 2010 at 12:30 pm)Paul the Human Wrote: [quote="I really don't understand why this isn't viewed as an extremely moral act. if you could give your child EVERLASTING BLISS AND REWARD, why not do it?"

They have that whole 'Thou shalt not kill' clause to worry about.
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Churchies know that said clause is highly optional.