(April 10, 2014 at 8:10 pm)Faith No More Wrote:

(April 10, 2014 at 9:33 am)Thackerie Wrote: I personally have nothing to repent for. Every time some christian arsehole tells us to repent, he or she is actually telling us we're bad people and implying that the christian is better than us.

It's a lie and an insult ... and a damn stupid way to try to recruit followers.

What the Christian is actually doing is trying to convince you that you have a disease so he/she can try to sell you the cure. You see, Christianity would cease to exist if it couldn't convince people that there is something from which they need saving.

Ah, yes.

Quote:What is the function that a clergyman performs in the world? Answer: he gets his living by assuring idiots that he can save them from an imaginary hell.
— H L Mencken

(April 10, 2014 at 10:36 pm)Minimalist Wrote:

(April 10, 2014 at 8:10 pm)Faith No More Wrote: What the Christian is actually doing is trying to convince you that you have a disease so he/she can try to sell you the cure. You see, Christianity would cease to exist if it couldn't convince people that there is something from which they need saving.

Ah, yes.

Quote:What is the function that a clergyman performs in the world? Answer: he gets his living by assuring idiots that he can save them from an imaginary hell.
— H L Mencken

If a doctor says you have cancer what would you do? God said we all have sinned and he gave us the cure.

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(April 10, 2014 at 12:44 pm)Tonus Wrote:

(April 9, 2014 at 11:25 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: most of the prophesies are yet to come

And they will remain so. You do understand that generations of men have been certain that they would see the second coming of Christ, only to grow old and die without having that expectation fulfilled? The end of all things has been "very close" for centuries. But I bet you're pretty sure that this time, it's legit.

So one knows the day or the hour, but He will return like a thief in the night. We can tell the season we are in.

Do I need to bring up the citation stamp again? Why not attach some evidence to your fiat assertions? Might make them a little easier to swallow.

(April 10, 2014 at 10:40 pm)Revelation777 Wrote:

(April 10, 2014 at 10:36 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Ah, yes.

If a doctor says you have cancer what would you do? God said we all have sinned and he gave us the cure.

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(April 10, 2014 at 12:44 pm)Tonus Wrote: And they will remain so. You do understand that generations of men have been certain that they would see the second coming of Christ, only to grow old and die without having that expectation fulfilled? The end of all things has been "very close" for centuries. But I bet you're pretty sure that this time, it's legit.

So one knows the day or the hour, but He will return like a thief in the night. We can tell the season we are in.

He said he would return in the lifetimes of some of his original followers.

Pretty sure they're all dust now.

Quote:If a doctor says you have cancer what would you do?

A doctor would have lab tests to back up his position. You've got shit.

(April 10, 2014 at 12:21 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote:

(April 10, 2014 at 9:33 am)Thackerie Wrote: Every time some christian arsehole tells us to repent, he or she is actually telling us we're bad people and implying that the christian is better than us.

It's actually "step 3" in the cliched process that I have the most problem with.

As I understand it, the pitch often goes like this:

Quote:Step 1: Admit you are a sinner.

If by "sin" you mean that I'm not perfect or have done things in my life I regret, sure.

Quote:Step 2: Be willing to turn from sin or "repent"

I already believe this. I try to face my mistakes honestly and learn from them, resolving to be better in the future.

Quote:Step 3: Believe that God sent himself down to earth to become his own son so that he could make everything OK by dying on a cross as this was the only means to convince himself to forgive all of us for being the sinful beings that we are because an ancestor of ours that was made from a rib ate a magic fruit after speaking with a talking snake.
Believe that this blood sacrifice makes all your mistakes OK because... well, that part is never explained.

You had me. You had me. You lost me.

Step 3: God, three persons, one God...the Father sent His Son to earth and lived a life without sin. Using God's own standard, life being in the blood, requires the shedding of blood for the forgiveness of sins. Jesus, man's representative, did what we couldn't do, live perfectly before a holy God and become a acceptable sacrifice on our behalf. The disobedience of not eating the fruit that God warned was needed because He gave us a free will. There needs to be a choice between doing right or wrong. Being obedient or disobedient. Satan, use a creature from the garden to speak to and deceive the woman.

Quote:God, three persons, one God...the Father sent His Son to earth and lived a life without sin.

If Arianism had triumphed you'd be calling the trinity silly shit. For once in your useless life you'd be right.

(April 10, 2014 at 10:49 pm)Minimalist Wrote:

Quote:If a doctor says you have cancer what would you do?

A doctor would have lab tests to back up his position. You've got shit.

In fact a doctor may speculate and give you a head's up on what he/she thinks may be wrong with you but is unlikely to make a definitive claim without running a whole lot of tests.

(April 10, 2014 at 10:40 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: If a doctor says you have cancer what would you do?

If the doctor simply said it without any justification or doing any tests? I'd do exactly what I'm doing with every single baseless claim you make here - withhold belief until evidence is presented.

(April 10, 2014 at 12:20 am)Revelation777 Wrote: Dear Sir,
It is true that the Scripture is filled with the supernatural. Well, we have a supernatural God. He has a timeline and He is following it to the "T". He is active, He sent His prophets, then His Son, and now we are in a time of faith. He even told the Jews that they look for a sign but all He would give them is the sign of Jonah. And He delivered, He rose again. He is given mankind this season to turn to Him. And just like in the days of Noah, when the period of grace is up, you will see the supernatural. The endtimes are at hand, the prophesies are being fulfilled in our day. Israel, just like the Bible predicted has be re-est in 1948. We are heading towards a one world, one monitary system, just like the Bible predicted. The man of sin is about to come on the scene. This world will be entering in a time of trial like it has never seen before. That is why I am sounding the alarm, time is running out.

Are you fucking kidding me?!? I've been hearing this shit for 45 fucking years and it's always "just around the corner." Worse, you christers have been spewing this shit for a couple thousand years and "his return" has always been imminent.

Matthew 16:28 "Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom."

Two fucking THOUSAND years later and their prom date still hasn't shown up. Guess what. The holy zombie ain't gonna make it back. Hell, he was never here in the first place. If you want to believe he was, fine. If you want me to believe it you'll need to present some real, testable, verifiable evidence.

Evidence is the key!

Evidence or STFU!

And, you never answered my earlier question.
If a bastard can not enter the congregation of the lord (means he can't worship gawd) then how the did he allegedly manage it?!? Please don't try to tell me he was legitimate through Joseph. That's just plain bullshit! Nobody gets two real daddies. He was either the son of gawd and a bastard or the son of Joseph and no more holy than anyone else. Pick one, but only one.