(April 13, 2014 at 10:25 pm)Revelation777 Wrote:

(April 13, 2014 at 9:31 pm)tor Wrote: Rampant Jeffrey Dahmer actually turned christian in prison. But it doesn't matter. Even if all serial killers in the world were atheists or christians it has ZERO impact on if god exists or not.

Then Jeffrey went to heaven when he died.

And are you ok with that?
Remembering that people who's only crime is not believing in your god are to be condemned to hell eternal, are you seriously ok with a sadistic murderer getting into heaven?

Because if you are, you have no fucking concept of morality at all.

(April 13, 2014 at 9:25 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: Hitler said he was a Christian, but his actions and life say otherwise.

I think I asked this before, but where is the line that determines when you stop being a Christian? Christians admit that man is but a lowly sinner who depends on god's undeserved mercy and Christ's ransom sacrifice. Therefore every Christian does unchristian things now and then. Where is the line that you use to decide that Hitler isn't a Christian and someone else is?

(April 14, 2014 at 6:34 am)Zen Badger Wrote:

(April 13, 2014 at 10:25 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: Then Jeffrey went to heaven when he died.

And are you ok with that?
Remembering that people who's only crime is not believing in your god are to be condemned to hell eternal, are you seriously ok with a sadistic murderer getting into heaven?

Because if you are, you have no fucking concept of morality at all.

Jesus paid the price in full for all sins for those who come to Him.

(April 14, 2014 at 6:58 am)Revelation777 Wrote:

(April 14, 2014 at 6:34 am)Zen Badger Wrote: And are you ok with that?
Remembering that people who's only crime is not believing in your god are to be condemned to hell eternal, are you seriously ok with a sadistic murderer getting into heaven?

Because if you are, you have no fucking concept of morality at all.

Jesus paid the price in full for all sins for those who come to Him.

Does Bertrand Russel burn in hell right now?

(April 14, 2014 at 6:58 am)Revelation777 Wrote: Jesus paid the price in full for all sins for those who come to Him.

So you're okay with murderers getting an ultimate reward, while non-murdering atheists get eternally punished? That's justice, to you?

(April 14, 2014 at 6:58 am)Revelation777 Wrote:

(April 14, 2014 at 6:34 am)Zen Badger Wrote: And are you ok with that?
Remembering that people who's only crime is not believing in your god are to be condemned to hell eternal, are you seriously ok with a sadistic murderer getting into heaven?

Because if you are, you have no fucking concept of morality at all.

Jesus paid the price in full for all sins for those who come to Him.

Something that someone wrote in some book is where u get ur unknown information..sounds like u got something, something unknown..

(April 13, 2014 at 11:39 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote:

(April 13, 2014 at 9:47 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: I appreciated your response until you had to end it with an insult. Oh well.

That wasn't an insult. It was a serious question. I don't actually think you are this dense. No one is. I am asking why you are intentionally being so.

(April 13, 2014 at 9:47 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: If that be the case how come after millions of years for our dna and genes to evolve that humans still are susceptible to disease, mental illness, and mental retardation?

There is nothing in the theory of evolution that would make any rational person expect that there would be no disease or mental illnesses.
For several reasons: One, we are biological organisms. So are most diseases. Those diseases evolve, too. Two, genetic mutations occur in every person. Most of those mutations will be deleterious. This is expected, even necessary for evolution to work. Third, there are environmental factors involved with many mental illnesses/retardation. A woman drinking alcohol while pregnant, premature birth, head trauma. Lastly, humans aren't as sexually selective about things like mental illness any longer. My girlfriend suffers from clinical depression. I would never even consider not having children with her for that reason. So the gene will survive in our potential children. There is not much negative selection pressure. (There still is some, but not a lot)

your answer makes sense

(April 14, 2014 at 6:58 am)Revelation777 Wrote:

(April 14, 2014 at 6:34 am)Zen Badger Wrote: And are you ok with that?
Remembering that people who's only crime is not believing in your god are to be condemned to hell eternal, are you seriously ok with a sadistic murderer getting into heaven?

Because if you are, you have no fucking concept of morality at all.

Jesus paid the price in full for all sins for those who come to Him.

What sort of bloody answer is that?!?!

Do you actually have any original thoughts in your head or are you just a mindless drivel spouting jesusbot!?

And that is the difference between you and your ilk and us.

We actually think about things and try to arrive at the truth,

You on the other hand just spew out whatever inane bullshit has been ladled into your empty skull by the same preacher that has emptied your pockets.

You're not even capable of a coherent and intelligible, let alone an intelligent response.

Revelation I asked a question. Does Bertrand Russel burn in hell right now?

(April 13, 2014 at 9:28 pm)Beccs Wrote: The thing is, many atheists, particularly former believers, like myself, have read the whole bible objectively, which helped us become atheists. The believers generally read it through their god glasses, and usually not the whole thing - just the sections they agree with and think should apply to them.

His point is moot, anyways, because it's not as if there are secret details that are going to somehow magically explain the overall narrative that we're all familiar with, thanks to Christians.

Their objections about not having read the bible are simply a distraction from the fact that god sacrificed himself to get around rules he created, which makes no sense.