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Argument #2: Evolution Of Species
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 RE: Argument #2: Evolution Of Species
May 6, 2014 at 12:45 pm
(This post was last modified: May 6, 2014 at 12:46 pm by Anomalocaris.)
(May 6, 2014 at 12:36 pm)Aral Gamelon Wrote:(May 5, 2014 at 11:04 am)Revelation777 Wrote: Look son at the picture that is slightly crooked on the wall, pay no mind to the elephant in the room. Not comparable. Revs strings random wishes together and call it "arguments". Enrico strings random syllables together and call it "post".  Quote:Again, it is an unprovable theological assertion that God would not place the same nonfunctional sequences at the same locus in separate species. He may have a purpose for doing so that is beyond our present understanding.Or the shorter version: "thank god for unprovable assertions."
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould  Argument #2: Evolution Of Species
May 6, 2014 at 1:19 pm
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(May 6, 2014 at 12:45 pm)Chuck Wrote:(May 6, 2014 at 12:36 pm)Aral Gamelon Wrote: Holy shit, this guy gives enrico a run for his money. I'm convinced Enrico randomly generates all of his posts with something like http://www.wisdomofchopra.com Unfortunately, the random quote generator may in fact be his brain.  RE: Argument #2: Evolution Of Species
May 6, 2014 at 2:31 pm
(This post was last modified: May 6, 2014 at 2:31 pm by Simon Moon.)
(May 4, 2014 at 10:18 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: Argument #2: Evolution of Species Kerkut made this statement in 1960. That was 55 years ago. Evidence has passed him by, by decades. Quote:My argument is not that change doesn’t take place within species over time. My argument is that no matter how long the time frame, there is no substantial scientific evidence that a microbe has evolved into a human being. Additionally, there is no substantial scientific evidence that non-living chemicals can produce a living cell regardless of time and/or chance. But you're not making an argument. You're making unsupported assertions. The people with actual credentials can explain, with evidence and not breaking any scientific laws, how this can happen. So, again all you prove is that you got nothing. You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence. 
This Micro Macro evolution argument is stupid. Seeing as You guys will move the goal post. Remember when horse evolution never could happen? I do and now all of a sudden it can.
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 (May 6, 2014 at 3:27 pm)ThePaleolithicFreethinker Wrote: This Micro Macro evolution argument is stupid. Seeing as You guys will move the goal post. Remember when horse evolution never could happen? I do and now all of a sudden it can. Spot on. 'Micro' and 'macro' evolution are exactly the same thing - it is a difference of degree, not of kind. It is rather like saying, 'I believe in sugar cubes, but lorry loads of sugar are impossible.' Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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Copenhagen School  Religious Views: Its all bullshit to keep you handing money to the usher.
So what's argument number 3?
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day, To the last syllable of recorded time; And all our yesterdays have lighted fools The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle! Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player, That struts and frets his hour upon the stage, And then is heard no more. It is a tale Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, Signifying nothing.  
The waits between 'arguments' (read: baseless, unsupported assertions) are logarithmic. 6 days between the one and two, we're looking at three weeks and 2 rule change suggestions before we get to argument #3: If I evolved from a monkey, how come there are still monkeys?
"There remain four irreducible objections to religious faith: that it wholly misrepresents the origins of man and the cosmos, that because of this original error it manages to combine the maximum servility with the maximum of solipsism, that it is both the result and the cause of dangerous sexual repression, and that it is ultimately grounded on wish-thinking." ~Christopher Hitchens, god is not Great
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