(May 31, 2014 at 6:00 pm)Tonus Wrote:

(May 31, 2014 at 5:51 pm)Artur Axmann Wrote: But that's not for us to decide.What I'm saying is cover your rear end ,just in case.

Whatever denomination appeals to you is O.K...

Is that how you worship the Christian god? "I'm not sure what your game is, Yahweh, but I'll act like I care so that you can reward me with heaven if I bought the right ticket."

You don't really seem to care about religion except to the extent that it might inconvenience you if you ignore it too much. And if you are going to be inconvenienced now, then everyone else should share in it so you can pretend that everyone is laughing with you and not at you. What makes you think that any god would reward someone who uses religious belief as some sort of confidence game? And why would I join any religion that uses such an idiotic method of recruitment?

(May 31, 2014 at 6:04 pm)Artur Axmann Wrote:

(May 31, 2014 at 6:00 pm)Tonus Wrote: Is that how you worship the Christian god? "I'm not sure what your game is, Yahweh, but I'll act like I care so that you can reward me with heaven if I bought the right ticket."

You don't really seem to care about religion except to the extent that it might inconvenience you if you ignore it too much. And if you are going to be inconvenienced now, then everyone else should share in it so you can pretend that everyone is laughing with you and not at you. What makes you think that any god would reward someone who uses religious belief as some sort of confidence game? And why would I join any religion that uses such an idiotic method of recruitment?

I'm not saying that's me or anything.

I'm not trying to complicate it..

All I'm asking you to consider is what do you really have to lose in comparison with an eternity to lose..

keep it simple.

(May 31, 2014 at 3:30 pm)Artur Axmann Wrote:

(May 31, 2014 at 12:44 pm)Irrational Wrote: I don't know what the risks are. And I don't have access to any evidence showing that I should consider those risks. Furthermore, what God and what eternity are we speaking of here? Allah? Eternity in Janneh or Jouhannam?

Provide evidence and then we can discuss the risks. Otherwise, there's no point in living life as if God exists.

O.K . so let's just say , You are right and I'm wrong ..

What have you really GAINED?

But you are putting yourself at a greater risk,because If I'm right and you are in fact WRONG!

Then you have an endless eternity in pain and misery to deal with.

its the risk/reward ratio you have to deal with.

In fact many atheists do exactly that. and that's why we have so many deathbed confessions. and conversions. its called covering your bases and your arses.

(May 31, 2014 at 6:04 pm)Artur Axmann Wrote: I'm not trying to complicate it..

(May 31, 2014 at 6:08 pm)Chad32 Wrote:

(May 31, 2014 at 3:30 pm)Artur Axmann Wrote: O.K . so let's just say , You are right and I'm wrong ..

What have you really GAINED?

But you are putting yourself at a greater risk,because If I'm right and you are in fact WRONG!

Then you have an endless eternity in pain and misery to deal with.

its the risk/reward ratio you have to deal with.

In fact many atheists do exactly that. and that's why we have so many deathbed confessions. and conversions. its called covering your bases and your arses.

Convincing people to convert when they are in a vulnerable position does nothing for your case. If you're wrong, I've gained the time I'd otherwise have wasted, the money I otherwise would have spent, and the dignity I would otherwise not have.

(May 31, 2014 at 6:14 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: Seriously dude. You've been asked by me numerous times in this thread to respond, and now by a moderator. I've reported you. You should probably stop ignoring me now.