(June 3, 2014 at 1:40 pm)BlackMason Wrote:

(June 3, 2014 at 10:24 am)Cato Wrote: If we take that view then many occupations can't be considered a profession, as has been mentioned before in this thread.

And so what? Occupation =/= Profession. Profession is not greater than occupation.

That point has been made and the OP doesn't care; too busy on some Quixotic anti-porn crusade. I damn sure don't make that ridiculous distinction.

Only just checked back into this thread.

Not gonna lie Zidneya, I read your first few responses to my earlier post and after that I didn't read anymore. You are on a lower intellectual level than me (and pretty much every other poster on this website), that much is obvious. I hope nobody holds it against me if I decline to respond to that page of drivel you wrote.

Oh, and please don't link to porn again. We can talk about it, but there's no need to link to actual porn sites.

(June 3, 2014 at 1:59 pm)BlackMason Wrote:

(June 3, 2014 at 1:53 am)paulpablo Wrote: Yeh I'm not arguing with you at all, I agree that being a porn is the simplest of activities. There can be some skills involved in being a porn actor or actress but it isn't required.

Hold on a sex...I mean sec. It's tough being a male performer though. It's harder than being a female performer. I'll give you the reasons I've noted from my extensive porn behind the scenes/documentary fascination. Many times the scene can't get going because the guy can't get wood. The guy can't fake a hard on. In some cases the guy has to fuck a chick he's not attracted to. This happens with the girls too but they can fake it. They can fake orgasms too. The guy can't. Finding a guy with the appropriate credential(s) is tough (He didn't get the job because he's got a great personality). Not only do you have to find THAT guy, but he's got to be able to have sex in a room filled with strangers.

Lighting is an issue because the directors need it to portray the scene intended. So if the guy can't keep a hard cock, it becomes a race against time. This can screw up a whole day's shoot. It can also drive up overheads because you may have only paid 1 days rent for the house you're fucking in. It just became 2!

I'm sure being a male porn star could be a difficult job but it's not really got any rock solid skill requirements.

For example a guy might love having sex in public in front of people on camera and so he signs up to be a porn star and he just does it, no tests no examinations of skill level or competence, no education for years in the theory of porn.

Some porn actors might have solid bodies at the absolute height of fitness, be able to get an erection in front of their own family members, have sex with such stamina they can last for 12 hours and be able to do it while juggling dildos. But this isn't a rock solid requirement of porn, guys can get into the business and make videos without any of these skill levels.

You can get a porn actor who's job it is to be a cuckold, all he has to do is stand there with a flaccid penis, pretend to be a white woman's husband while she gets penetrated by a black man in front of him.

You get gonzo porn where all the actress has to do is pretend to be an amateur girl with no experience, or maybe she is and all she has to do is be herself.

Porn is a broad spectrum with many unskilled jobs available within it.

On the other hand you won't see a qualified doctor who's just done it because he's naturally pretty good at biology and remembering body parts but didn't get fully educated in the topic. Or a doctor who's just there to stand around and look good and so on.

Oh but I do take back what I said about porn being the simplest of activities, I meant it can be very simple. Admittedly usually it isn't.

(June 3, 2014 at 6:02 am)Cato Wrote: Why am I not surprised. You're obsessed.

Was… I don't need to prove my point anymore. I talk to the guy told him he was right and well that's pretty much it. And to my surprise he didn't brag nor anything actually he took it quite well.

(June 3, 2014 at 6:02 am)Cato Wrote: Sounds like you missed your calling.

Quote:But I gotta warn you I studied photography in colleague in order to graduate me in graphic design and I was the firs place in my generation(I can even show you the award they gave me) so my opinion in photography counts as much as yours okay

I didn't miss anything. Don't act like you know me Cato. That it's the only advice I can give you, that I suggest you should listen.

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(June 3, 2014 at 2:53 am)Losty Wrote: I don't know, I live in the US and I use Spanish every day. I suppose that is not the same. We can switch to Spanish if you'd like, though I can't guarantee that my Spanish is a whole lot better than your English.

Si porque el sistema educativo de México es tan, pero tan avanzado que eso es difícil de creer(sarcasmo para los no habituados a el). Te digo que casi nunca usa ingles aquí así que respóndeme una pregunta ¿que crees que no hay foros ateos en español? ¿Nunca te preguntaste porque participo en uno que esta en otro idioma? Lo curios es que cuando hacia faltas de ortografía en cualquier pagina de habla hispana la gente me decía donde me equivocaba. Aquí por otro lado solo dicen: hablas mal y punto. Y para serte sincero no se si esto esta bien o mal. Tengo el presentimiento de que si le pregunto a la gente donde me equivoco no me van a dejar en paz. Pero siendo honesto este es un foro no un articulo oficial ni una pagina de publicados así que mi mal ingles no es una preocupación muy prominente que digamos. Me agrada escribir lo que digo de manera fluida para que quede plasmada mi forma de pensar y de reacción conforme a como interactuó con lo que leo. Así que los errores de gramática, puntuación y estructura de oración créeme que no me importan mucho que digamos. Esto es un foro por amor al cielo!!! En una comunidad en línea donde se usan emoticons, modismos(o como le dicen ustedes slang) y no me hagas empezar con los nombres de usuario haha. Y no creas que es el mejor foro en el que he estado. Así que prefiero escribir como me siento fluida, loca e inesperadamente. Aunque los errores de ortografía y elección de palabra esos si me preocupan y trato de enmendarlos. Además TE LO VUELVO A DECIR POR VIGESIMA VEZ si no te gusta lo que escribo NADIE TE OBLIGA A LEERLO. No creas que todos piensan como tu. Por ejemplo: jots, fr0d0, Minimalist, alpha male, MindForgedManacle, Kitanetos y RaisdCath ya me han dicho que a ellos no les dan mucha importancia lo de mi mal ingles ni eso ni de los smileys. ¿Oh que? Esperabas que me interesa que tan bien hablas español? Ohhh eso es tan lindo(fútil y no importante) pero tan lindo….
Supongo que si porque sino no me lo hubieras mencionado.

Quote:My only important point was that I can give kudos whenever and to whomever I want,

Em… si ya lo se es un sistema de aprobación de pulgares arriba no es física cuántica no necesitas explicarme como funciona.

Quote:and I don't have to explain myself to anyone.

Hey si tu no quieres respaldar lo que apruebas y el porque lo apruebas ese es tu problema. Lo curioso es que tu y rexbeccarox, para ser usuarios que dicen no tienen que rendirle cuentas a nadie eso si. Escriben muchas oraciones cuando terminan haciéndolo del porque aprueban lo que aprueban hahaha. Si lo se soy un pesado pero aceptémoslo.

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(June 3, 2014 at 1:59 pm)BlackMason Wrote: This is why I don't understand why the chicks get paid more. Hard for the guys. Lol!

It's official male porn actors need a labour union.
Of course assuming that they don't have one yet. Do they?

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(June 3, 2014 at 1:59 pm)BlackMason Wrote: I'm not surprised. It's a common misconception. Kinda like how a lot of people think theory has the same meaning in science as it does in ordinary language.

Regular folk normally confuse the meaning of theory with hypothesis.

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(June 3, 2014 at 3:27 pm)Cato Wrote:

(June 3, 2014 at 1:40 pm)BlackMason Wrote: And so what? Occupation =/= Profession. Profession is not greater than occupation.

That point has been made and the OP doesn't care; too busy on some Quixotic anti-porn crusade. I damn sure don't make that ridiculous distinction.

My point it's that profession =/= professionalism.

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(June 3, 2014 at 3:45 pm)Napoléon Wrote: Only just checked back into this thread.

Not gonna lie Zidneya, I read your first few responses to my earlier post and after that I didn't read anymore. You are on a lower intellectual level than me (and pretty much every other poster on this website), that much is obvious. I hope nobody holds it against me if I decline to respond to that page of drivel you wrote.

Oh, and please don't link to porn again. We can talk about it, but there's no need to link to actual porn sites.

Ohh Napoléon if you only knew.

I got to page five and couldn't be arsed to read the rest. I'll step in on account of being an amateur photographer, though, since that was mentioned.

As I understand it, most amateur photographers call themselves such because they either don't get paid for their photography, or it isn't their main line of income. There's an argument about "when" you get to call yourself that, but consensus seemed to be that if you were doing photography for part time or full-time gigs, you are a professional photographer. EDIT: artists fall into 'professional' too, although I've never seen one called 'professional' who wasn't featured in a museum, did actual viewings of their work, or was published, or some shit, all of which also imply income).

If you think skill is needed for this, you're wrong.

Please see http://youarenotaphotographer.com/

Whenever I feel bad about "mah skillz" my boyfriend (who was up until recently a professional photographer who managed a studio all legit-like) would point me to that place.

Anyway. Where do you get the idea that a profession has to be one where you learn special skills to do it? Pretty sure garbagemen don't necessarily learn things - they just follow rules. Same with janitors. What if I got paid to rake leaves? I didn't have to learn anything there - I'm just raking, bagging, and hauling. I could be a professional leaf raker. So what?

I'm pretty sure people have already listed it, but porn, like photography, is a sliding scale of skills and types. What I like might not be the sort of porn you like. I happen to think that porn with better acting and more discernible plot is more attractive, but that's because I prefer to read my erotica than watch it. Some people might be just fine with 'amateur' porn because it's more 'real'. If you think the amateur stuff looks worse, well, just go back to that "you are not a photographer" website - people are still paying for it. It's like people paying for Budweiser instead of craft beer - some people just don't give a shit how they consume their vice, they just want to consume it. That doesn't make photography any less professional, or the beer any less alcoholic, or the porn any less...porny.

(May 31, 2014 at 12:03 am)Rampant.A.I. Wrote: A pornstar is someone who will commit any number of depraved acts, violate other people, sometimes in horribly disgusting ways, take it in every hole for money and act like they enjoy every minute of it.

A lawyer on the other hand...

I'm still not seeing the distinction between a porn star and a lawyer.

Is Dana De Armond a lawyer?

Holy shit, dude. As the daughter of a former Ranger who was JAG (he's now a gov't lawyer), I just fucking laughed until I had an asthmatic coughing fit.

(June 4, 2014 at 12:14 am)Zidneya Wrote: Si porque el sistema educativo de México es tan, pero tan avanzado que eso es difícil de creer(sarcasmo para los no habituados a el). Te digo que casi nunca usa ingles aquí así que respóndeme una pregunta ¿que crees que no hay foros ateos en español? ¿Nunca te preguntaste porque participo en uno que esta en otro idioma? Lo curios es que cuando hacia faltas de ortografía en cualquier pagina de habla hispana la gente me decía donde me equivocaba. Aquí por otro lado solo dicen: hablas mal y punto. Y para serte sincero no se si esto esta bien o mal. Tengo el presentimiento de que si le pregunto a la gente donde me equivoco no me van a dejar en paz. Pero siendo honesto este es un foro no un articulo oficial ni una pagina de publicados así que mi mal ingles no es una preocupación muy prominente que digamos. Me agrada escribir lo que digo de manera fluida para que quede plasmada mi forma de pensar y de reacción conforme a como interactuó con lo que leo. Así que los errores de gramática, puntuación y estructura de oración créeme que no me importan mucho que digamos. Esto es un foro por amor al cielo!!! En una comunidad en línea donde se usan emoticons, modismos(o como le dicen ustedes slang) y no me hagas empezar con los nombres de usuario haha. Y no creas que es el mejor foro en el que he estado. Así que prefiero escribir como me siento fluida, loca e inesperadamente. Aunque los errores de ortografía y elección de palabra esos si me preocupan y trato de enmendarlos. Además TE LO VUELVO A DECIR POR VIGESIMA VEZ si no te gusta lo que escribo NADIE TE OBLIGA A LEERLO. No creas que todos piensan como tu. Por ejemplo: jots, fr0d0, Minimalist, alpha male, MindForgedManacle, Kitanetos y RaisdCath ya me han dicho que a ellos no les dan mucha importancia lo de mi mal ingles ni eso ni de los smileys. ¿Oh que? Esperabas que me interesa que tan bien hablas español? Ohhh eso es tan lindo(fútil y no importante) pero tan lindo….
Supongo que si porque sino no me lo hubieras mencionado.

Quote:My only important point was that I can give kudos whenever and to whomever I want,

Em… si ya lo se es un sistema de aprobación de pulgares arriba no es física cuántica no necesitas explicarme como funciona.

Quote:and I don't have to explain myself to anyone.

Hey si tu no quieres respaldar lo que apruebas y el porque lo apruebas ese es tu problema. Lo curioso es que tu y rexbeccarox, para ser usuarios que dicen no tienen que rendirle cuentas a nadie eso si. Escriben muchas oraciones cuando terminan haciéndolo del porque aprueban lo que aprueban hahaha. Si lo se soy un pesado pero aceptémoslo.

Nope, my written Spanish cannot compete to that and now I'm so embarrassed I don't want to respond at all, but I will. If you want my apology in Spanish you'll have to PM me for it.

I feel like a complete asshole, and I am sorry. When I realized that English wasn't your first language I should have either apologized or just left it at that, but I decided to put my foot in my mouth because I was annoyed. It was immature and childish and I apologize for that.

I am Spanish, but I do not speak it or read it.

I should call a family member for translation.

Also, Rangers Lead the Way, so I have been told.

Rangers will lead you into something, but I don't know if it's the right way.

Or so I learned from the man who got bored and started driving his tank after a road runner. Or made alligator noises at the alligators in the swamps just to scare the shit out of the people with him.

All you have to do is Ranger it up.

(June 4, 2014 at 9:08 pm)Dragonetti Wrote: I am Spanish, but I do not speak it or read it.

Wait are you proud of that?