(June 6, 2014 at 4:45 pm)mickiel Wrote: In my view, 24 pages of it. Have you heard of the black obelisk?

http://formerthings.com/shalmaneser.htm

Stunning evidence of the bibles historical relevance.

You would love ancient aliens, I can tell.

(June 6, 2014 at 3:02 pm)mickiel Wrote: Course now if you are saying I am not welcome here, you have but to ask, and I will leave,

Boy, aren't YOU eager to play the martyr?

(June 6, 2014 at 4:45 pm)mickiel Wrote:

(June 6, 2014 at 4:40 pm)Rampant.A.I. Wrote: You have yet to post any evidence.

In my view, 24 pages of it. Have you heard of the black obelisk?

http://formerthings.com/shalmaneser.htm

Stunning evidence of the bibles historical relevance.

Historical inaccuracies in the bible:
http://www.weseekthetruth.org/articles/article105.html

http://www.answering-christianity.com/ab...pels-3.htm

http://thirdmill.org/answers/answer.asp/file/39817

Hardstone Carving:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardstone_c...amic_world

(June 6, 2014 at 3:12 pm)mickiel Wrote: Evolution cannot create anything; its not a power unto itself; it has no beginning, no mind, its not a creative being; evolution is inherited change, its a process which cannot create ANYTHING!

Your answer to the observation that all you've been doing is making unsupported assertions is ANOTHER unsupported assertion that isn't even relevant to the post to which you're replying?

(June 6, 2014 at 4:36 pm)mickiel Wrote: Hey, if you keep showing them a cat, and they keep calling it a dog, what can you do? For an hour I have not posted more evidence, because we are stuck on what is evidence and what is not.

Okay, fine. Now we're going to play it this way.

God doesn't exist. The fact that we live in a natural world is proof of that. The fact that evolution is a sufficient cause of the diversity of life on earth is proof of that. The fact that abiogenesis is a sufficient cause for the beginning of life is proof of that. The fact that we clearly don't live in a creation as the majority of the universe is outright fatal to life is proof of that. The fact that something can come from nothing is proof of that. The fact that god isn't real is proof of that.

That's what you think evidence is, right? Well, now you can refute all of that evidence I just laid out, because those are all facts, and now you have to deal with that.

(June 6, 2014 at 4:47 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote:

(June 6, 2014 at 2:59 pm)mickiel Wrote: I agree, he designed all matter to come to an end, and because it is, just another proof of him.

Here's the thing, and it's at the heart of many of your assertions: if the opposite were the case, you could still say the same thing with equal justification. Whenever something works just as well for your argument whether it's true or false, it isn't evidence.

Well evidence often barrels down to source; and atheist as well as Christians use only their own sources. but I give atheist the nod of being more broad minded between the two;

http://www.universetoday.com/105588/how-...verse-end/

(June 6, 2014 at 3:17 pm)mickiel Wrote: [Well I have irritated and intimidated groups before, I am used to being put out, and I understand it.

The phrase you're looking for is 'expelled for trolling', I think.

(June 6, 2014 at 3:17 pm)mickiel Wrote: The Christians have put me out the most, because I press hard on them, you see what religion has done to the pathology of this world.

You embarass yourself with Christians, too.

(June 6, 2014 at 3:17 pm)mickiel Wrote: I can be hard on atheist as well, several of them have asked me to leave as well; so 20 of you to just me is maybe not fair to you, but I think atheist are stronger debators than Christians. That strength makes this more fair, but I can sense a few of you wanting me gone already.

People not liking you doesn't mean you're threatening, it means you're unlikeable. Frankly, having you around gives me the feeling that I'm smarter than I really am, thanks for the ego boost.

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(June 6, 2014 at 3:20 pm)mickiel Wrote: I am curious, would anything I would have said have matter to you?

Something that showed you had the slightest comprehension of the post you were replying to would have been nice.

(June 6, 2014 at 4:55 pm)mickiel Wrote:

(June 6, 2014 at 4:47 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: Here's the thing, and it's at the heart of many of your assertions: if the opposite were the case, you could still say the same thing with equal justification. Whenever something works just as well for your argument whether it's true or false, it isn't evidence.

Well evidence often barrels down to source; and atheist as well as Christians use only their own sources. but I give atheist the nod of being more broad minded between the two;

http://www.universetoday.com/105588/how-...verse-end/

(June 6, 2014 at 4:52 pm)Esquilax Wrote:

(June 6, 2014 at 4:36 pm)mickiel Wrote: Hey, if you keep showing them a cat, and they keep calling it a dog, what can you do? For an hour I have not posted more evidence, because we are stuck on what is evidence and what is not.

Okay, fine. Now we're going to play it this way.

God doesn't exist. The fact that we live in a natural world is proof of that.QUOTE

We do not live in a natural world, its a created world

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The fact that evolution is a sufficient cause of the diversity of life on earth is proof of that.QUOTE

Evolution is a tool that the designer of earth uses to change his creations; tweak them



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The fact that abiogenesis is a sufficient cause for the beginning of life is proof of that.QUOTE


I do not believe in abiogenesis, but I accept biogenesis.


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The fact that we clearly don't live in a creation as the majority of the universe is outright fatal to life is proof of that. QUOTE

I have no idea what this means

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The fact that something can come from nothing is proof of that. The fact that god isn't real is proof of that.QUOTE

Something cannot come from nothing, and there is no proof that god is not real.


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That's what you think evidence is, right? Well, now you can refute all of that evidence I just laid out, because those are all facts, and now you have to deal with that.

(June 6, 2014 at 4:52 pm)Esquilax Wrote: Okay, fine. Now we're going to play it this way.

God doesn't exist. The fact that we live in a natural world is proof of that. The fact that evolution is a sufficient cause of the diversity of life on earth is proof of that. The fact that abiogenesis is a sufficient cause for the beginning of life is proof of that. The fact that we clearly don't live in a creation as the majority of the universe is outright fatal to life is proof of that. The fact that something can come from nothing is proof of that. The fact that god isn't real is proof of that.

That's what you think evidence is, right? Well, now you can refute all of that evidence I just laid out, because those are all facts, and now you have to deal with that.

This should be /thread.