I think it's more of an educated guess by what we know of consciousness, that he is saying it cannot emerge from non-consciousness. I think Athiests put alot of faith in evolution ability to create anything, any design, without knowing exactly how it did that other then the general explanation of mutations and natural selection.

(June 7, 2014 at 5:04 pm)mickiel Wrote: ...I could careless.

It's I couldn't care less!!!!

Yet another fucked up use of language by our resident English purity prude. Despite his frequent protestations, he keeps proving that he is the one with no respect for the English langage.

A side note, not related to any particular post in this thread, but rather an amalgam thought (if there is such a thing) on the back-and-forth between our new theist and the non-believers:

It's curious to me how little respect our theists have. We do have the rare theists who come here and manage to respect people for the most part. Anyone remember Tackattack? He had the same ole ridiculous belief structure but he usually understood how to respect others while disagreeing with them. He didn't go around spouting off unsubstantiated claims about things he knew nothing about. He didn't go around making ridiculous strawman arguments about evolution or continuously berating people for using expletives. Rayaan is another example of a great theist here who doesn't go around annoying the holy fuck out of people.

What is it about believing in god that makes most believers such holy fucking assholes? They get all their information from their preacher or their youth pastor pal and don't even bother checking on their information before blathering it out like a gullible halfwit. AND they always precede that with how "unique" their particular views on god are and how "unchristian" they feel their position is ... all while they tout the Bible and praise the Genesis creation.

It's just so god damn predictably annoying.

You say you're not a christian, yet you smell like a christian, you talk like a christian, you act like a christian, you believe the same book as a christian, you're uneducated like a christian and you're an arrogant fucking asshole ... like a christian. Guess what, I see no difference. Accept it or not - I don't care, you're a christian.