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RE: An unorthodox belief in God.
June 8, 2014 at 1:52 pm
(June 8, 2014 at 1:01 pm)Confused Ape Wrote: (June 8, 2014 at 12:31 pm)mickiel Wrote: I disagree, I am not religious , I have absolutely nothing to do with religion.
I'm guessing this mean you don't belong to any organised religion. What's getting me confused is your saying you aren't a Christian but you keep using the Bible to justify your belief in God. What about other religions' concepts of God? Have you ever found anything besides the Bible which you regard as evidence for your belief?
The bible is not Christian, it was not written by Christians or for Christians, it was written for the world. Christianity holds absolutely no legal rights on the bible, and they don't own it; you just have been duped into thinking those things. I do not adhere to any religions concepts, and I have evidence from science, history, archaeology, common sense, nature, laws, animals, emotion, the universe, atheist, education; all these and more provide evidence for god.
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Re: RE: An unorthodox belief in God.
June 8, 2014 at 1:54 pm
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Stimbo ' Wrote: There is a spider on my wall. How fortunate that the wall is there, otherwise the poor animal would be sitting there in midair, hanging on nothing.
Yes, think of the odds! How unlikely it is for there to be a wall right where the spider needed to be! Truly the spider God is all knowing!
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RE: An unorthodox belief in God.
June 8, 2014 at 1:55 pm
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(June 8, 2014 at 1:09 pm)Stimbo Wrote: (June 6, 2014 at 10:45 am)mickiel Wrote: It had to be part of a plan of god to have theism and atheism.
For what purpose?
To have confusion. god wanted confusion to exist all during human history.
(June 8, 2014 at 1:54 pm)JesusHChrist Wrote: Stimbo ' Wrote: There is a spider on my wall. How fortunate that the wall is there, otherwise the poor animal would be sitting there in midair, hanging on nothing.
Yes, think of the odds! How unlikely it is for there to be a wall right where the spider needed to be! Truly the spider God is all knowing!
There is a spider that can be in Chicargo , spin a web into the air like a kite, and fly on the wind over 200 miles to Detroit; they migrate like that.
Stuff like that does not create itself. Its EVIDENCE of a creator!
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An unorthodox belief in God.
June 8, 2014 at 2:03 pm
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(June 8, 2014 at 1:55 pm)mickiel Wrote: (June 8, 2014 at 1:09 pm)Stimbo Wrote: For what purpose?
To have confusion. god wanted confusion to exist all during human history.
Is that why you refuse to educate yourself about basic science and biology; you think god wants you to remain confused?
(June 8, 2014 at 1:55 pm)mickiel Wrote: (June 8, 2014 at 1:54 pm)JesusHChrist Wrote: Yes, think of the odds! How unlikely it is for there to be a wall right where the spider needed to be! Truly the spider God is all knowing!
There is a spider that can be in Chicargo , spin a web into the air like a kite, and fly on the wind over 200 miles to Detroit; they migrate like that.
Stuff like that does not create itself. Its EVIDENCE of a creator!
Why aren't you capable of looking things up on your own?
No one has argued that evolved adaptations "just create themselves," they have informed you they adaptation over long periods of time can appear to have been "designed" to willfully ignorant evolution denialists like yourself.
Quote:The evolution of spiders has been going on for at least 400 million years, since the first true spiders (thin-waisted arachnids) evolved from crab-like chelicerate ancestors. Today, there are 42,473 described spider species within the diverse phylum of arthropods.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_of_spiders
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RE: An unorthodox belief in God.
June 8, 2014 at 2:04 pm
(June 8, 2014 at 1:55 pm)mickiel Wrote: (June 8, 2014 at 1:09 pm)Stimbo Wrote: For what purpose?
To have confusion. god wanted confusion to exist all during human history.
Then this god is malevolant.
(June 8, 2014 at 1:55 pm)mickiel Wrote: There is a spider that can be in Chicargo , spin a web into the air like a kite, and fly on the wind over 200 miles to Detroit; they migrate like that.
Stuff like that does not create itself. Its EVIDENCE of a creator!
How lucky for the spider that “Chicargo“ and Detroit, plus the air inbetween, plus its webspinning ability, plus the ratio between the spider's mass, the strength of the wind and the aerodynamic properties of the projected webbing, all exist. I'm beginning to think you have something here.
Probably bile.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: An unorthodox belief in God.
June 8, 2014 at 2:05 pm
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(June 8, 2014 at 2:03 pm)Rampant.A.I. Wrote: (June 8, 2014 at 1:55 pm)mickiel Wrote: To have confusion. god wanted confusion to exist all during human history.
There is a spider that can be in Chicargo , spin a web into the air like a kite, and fly on the wind over 200 miles to Detroit; they migrate like that.
Stuff like that does not create itself. Its EVIDENCE of a creator!
Why aren't you capable of looking things up on your own?
Quote:The evolution of spiders has been going on for at least 400 million years, since the first true spiders (thin-waisted arachnids) evolved from crab-like chelicerate ancestors. Today, there are 42,473 described spider species within the diverse phylum of arthropods.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_of_spiders
god is quite something isn't he! The master of evolution.
(June 8, 2014 at 2:04 pm)Stimbo Wrote: (June 8, 2014 at 1:55 pm)mickiel Wrote: To have confusion. god wanted confusion to exist all during human history.
Then this god is malevolant.
(June 8, 2014 at 1:55 pm)mickiel Wrote: There is a spider that can be in Chicargo , spin a web into the air like a kite, and fly on the wind over 200 miles to Detroit; they migrate like that.
Stuff like that does not create itself. Its EVIDENCE of a creator!
How lucky for the spider that “Chicargo“ and Detroit, plus the air inbetween, plus its webspinning ability, plus the ratio between the spider's mass, the strength of the wind and the aerodynamic properties of the projected webbing, all exist. I'm beginning to think you have something here.
Probably bile.
Don't leave out the water and weather!
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RE: An unorthodox belief in God.
June 8, 2014 at 2:46 pm
(June 8, 2014 at 1:55 pm)mickiel Wrote: There is a spider that can be in Chicargo , spin a web into the air like a kite, and fly on the wind over 200 miles to Detroit; they migrate like that.
Stuff like that does not create itself. Its EVIDENCE of a creator!
Somebody educate mickiel here and explain to him the type of argument he just used. <It's like I can't facepalm enough anymore>
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RE: An unorthodox belief in God.
June 8, 2014 at 3:11 pm
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(June 8, 2014 at 2:05 pm)mickiel Wrote: (June 8, 2014 at 2:04 pm)Stimbo Wrote:
Don't leave out the water and weather!
Wow - is this god unbelievable or what!
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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An unorthodox belief in God.
June 8, 2014 at 3:17 pm
(June 8, 2014 at 2:05 pm)mickiel Wrote: (June 8, 2014 at 2:03 pm)Rampant.A.I. Wrote: Why aren't you capable of looking things up on your own?
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_of_spiders
god is quite something isn't he! The master of evolution.
(June 8, 2014 at 2:04 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Then this god is malevolant.
How lucky for the spider that “Chicargo“ and Detroit, plus the air inbetween, plus its webspinning ability, plus the ratio between the spider's mass, the strength of the wind and the aerodynamic properties of the projected webbing, all exist. I'm beginning to think you have something here.
Probably bile.
Don't leave out the water and weather!
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RE: An unorthodox belief in God.
June 8, 2014 at 3:25 pm
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(June 8, 2014 at 1:52 pm)mickiel Wrote: The bible is not Christian, it was not written by Christians or for Christians, it was written for the world.
The writers of the New Testament intended the New Testament to be for the world. Unfortunately for the world, too many Christians decided that everyone should accept it whether they wanted to or not.
(June 8, 2014 at 1:52 pm)mickiel Wrote: Christianity holds absolutely no legal rights on the bible, and they don't own it; you just have been duped into thinking those things.
It's true that anybody can read it the same as anybody can read sacred texts from other religions. Some people who believe in Jesus aren't members of any organised version of Christianity because they prefer to go it alone.
(June 8, 2014 at 1:52 pm)mickiel Wrote: I do not adhere to any religions concepts, and I have evidence from science, history, archaeology, common sense, nature, laws, animals, emotion, the universe, atheist, education; all these and more provide evidence for god.
What is your personal concept of God? If you don't follow any religion you're free to have your own.
Where are the snake and mushroom smilies?
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