But TC, god probably doesn't exist.....just in case you misunderstand every atheist on this site.
And, I repeat, nothing lasts forever, christianity will die and who knows, some other superstition might take it's place.

The Olympic Games started in 776 BC.

Admittedly there was a bit of a gap but hey

(May 2, 2010 at 5:41 pm)True Christian Wrote: Give me another organization that has lasted this long. Not even religious, any system that has lasted over 2000 years.

Ill wait

Judaism. If I'm not mistaken, Jews don't believe in the same deity as most sects of Christianity.

Quote:The all-important difference between Christianity and Judaism is the Person of Jesus Christ. Christianity teaches that Jesus Christ is the fulfillment of the Old Testament prophecies of a coming Messiah / Savior (Isaiah 7:14; 9:6-7; Micah 5:2). Judaism often recognizes Jesus as a good teacher, and perhaps even a prophet of God. Judaism does not believe that Jesus was the Messiah. Taking it a step further, Christianity teaches that Jesus was God in the flesh (John 1:1,14; Hebrews 1:8). Christianity teaches that God became a human being in the Person of Jesus Christ so He could lay down His life to pay the price for our sins (Romans 5:8; 2 Corinthians 5:21). Judaism strongly denies that Jesus was God or that such a sacrifice was necessary.

This main difference means that Jews believe in a different deity than Christians. Christians believe in a deity that has transformed into a human and fulfilled the prophecy of the Old Testament; However Jews believe in a deity that has yet to fulfill the prophecy. You can't deny that Judaism is an organization or belief system that has lasted longer than Christianity. You should become a Jew by your argument. I'm particularly in agreement with Jews on 'Judaism strongly denies that Jesus was God or that such a sacrifice was necessary.' There you go. I named one.

I'm sure Hinduism and Muslim has lasted longer or just as long. Isn't Buddhism based on a system of ideas that precede Christianity?

(May 2, 2010 at 5:41 pm)True Christian Wrote: Give me another organization that has lasted this long. Not even religious, any system that has lasted over 2000 years.

Ill wait

I'm going to raise you the Chengdu Shishi High School founded in 143 B.C. which is the oldest institution/organisation that I can think of. Older than the Catholic Church!

Quote:I mean that the fact that the Church has lasted 2000 years shows its godly origins.

That's even sillier than what you said the first time. Using that "logic" I will now worship Osiris because he has at least 1,000 years on the god boy.

Buddhism was started by the Buddha who was born in 563B.C. I'd say that Buddhism is an older organisation than the Church.

Does anyone think the name of this thread should be changed to 'Hello, i am a really bad, cherry picking, in denial theist'?

(May 2, 2010 at 6:13 pm)Shinylight Wrote: Does anyone think the name of this thread should be changed to 'Hello, i am a really bad, cherry picking, in denial theist'?

I just hope he is humble and reasonable enough to admit that his argument was flawed and unsubstantiated.

(May 2, 2010 at 6:13 pm)Shinylight Wrote: Does anyone think the name of this thread should be changed to 'Hello, i am a really bad, cherry picking, in denial theist'?

Vote no to name change but TC may just be " having a laugh " at our expense, possibly.

It also has to be said that the reason that there are so few organisations and institutions that are around today that were also around at the time of the early years of the Catholic Church is because the very same went around the world destroying everything it touched and replacing it with bloody Catholicism.

Who knows what sort of ancient organisations there would be today if they had just minded their own business and stayed put in Rome.