Share as many examples like genocides, capital punishment etc.

It can be kind of difficult to tease apart religion from culture, history, and politics on these kinds of questions.

Religion always has provideda way for people to explain atrocities they can no longer reason for. Take this as an answer to your other thread.

Really, did you needed to do basicly duplicate threads?

I don't know how many times this needs to be said before you understand, God give us the free will to do what we want, but since we are flawed in sinned, out body I flawed also, it is not Gods will that the children were harmed or that the insane woman harmed these children, it is the work of Satan in his meddling, so people like you continue to believe that the Christian religion is a terrible thing, we don't just slap every bad thing that happens in this world with a label, God does not cause these things a dearly hopes it does not, God does not intervene with our free will, except by giving us signs of his love, and hopefully you take these signs and do the right thing with them, still I don't know what this post has to do with God, the fact that he did not intervene? We'll bad things happen in this world and it is the fault of man.

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Quote: God give us the free will to do what we want,

Well then, Fuck Him.

(June 10, 2014 at 3:04 am)Minimalist Wrote:

Quote: God give us the free will to do what we want,

Well then, F*** Him.

And that is your free will and I feel sorry for you that you feel that way

(June 10, 2014 at 2:31 am)Theonewhoanswersyourquestions Wrote: I don't know how many times this needs to be said before you understand, God give us the free will to do what we want, but since we are flawed in sinned, out body I flawed also, it is not Gods will that the children were harmed or that the insane woman harmed these children, it is the work of Satan in his meddling, so people like you continue to believe that the Christian religion is a terrible thing, we don't just slap every bad thing that happens in this world with a label, God does not cause these things a dearly hopes it does not, God does not intervene with our free will, except by giving us signs of his love, and hopefully you take these signs and do the right thing with them, still I don't know what this post has to do with God, the fact that he did not intervene? We'll bad things happen in this world and it is the fault of man.

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This is a dreadfully old chestnut, and has been answered more times than Pascal's Wager, but I'll have (another) lash.

The free will argument to exculpate God from moral evil doesn't work, as God could have allowed only the existence of those beings who would - of their own free will - never commit moral evil.

Go.

Boru

(June 10, 2014 at 2:31 am)Theonewhoanswersyourquestions Wrote: I don't know how many times this needs to be said before you understand, God give us the free will to do what we want, but since we are flawed in sinned, out body I flawed also, it is not Gods will that the children were harmed or that the insane woman harmed these children, it is the work of Satan in his meddling, so people like you continue to believe that the Christian religion is a terrible thing, we don't just slap every bad thing that happens in this world with a label, God does not cause these things a dearly hopes it does not, God does not intervene with our free will, except by giving us signs of his love, and hopefully you take these signs and do the right thing with them, still I don't know what this post has to do with God, the fact that he did not intervene? We'll bad things happen in this world and it is the fault of man.

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The bolded parts are not compatible. You first say that God gave us free will, then you go on to say that he's not responsible for the actions taken by said free will. Why? If he hadn't given us free will, would we be doing evil?

Since Christians love parent-child analogies so much when describing God's methods, let me give you an analogy. Lets say I put a cup of poison directly in reach of my two-year old. I tell her not to drink it, but I leave it out there all the time, 24-7, and do nothing to stop her from drinking it. Who is at fault if she drinks it? Will any adults blame her and not me?


On a side note, Theonewhoanswersyourquestions, what is the point of free will? Why do we have it? What does Almighty God gain from us being able to make choices as opposed to not being able to make them? What does he gain from us being able to make terrible choices?

(June 10, 2014 at 3:15 am)Theonewhoanswersyourquestions Wrote:

(June 10, 2014 at 3:04 am)Minimalist Wrote: Well then, F*** Him.

And that is your free will and I feel sorry for you that you feel that way

Don't. You are a deluded infant. Grow up.

You're on your own. There is no eternal sky-daddy watching your back.

(June 10, 2014 at 3:53 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(June 10, 2014 at 2:31 am)Theonewhoanswersyourquestions Wrote: I don't know how many times this needs to be said before you understand, God give us the free will to do what we want, but since we are flawed in sinned, out body I flawed also, it is not Gods will that the children were harmed or that the insane woman harmed these children, it is the work of Satan in his meddling, so people like you continue to believe that the Christian religion is a terrible thing, we don't just slap every bad thing that happens in this world with a label, God does not cause these things a dearly hopes it does not, God does not intervene with our free will, except by giving us signs of his love, and hopefully you take these signs and do the right thing with them, still I don't know what this post has to do with God, the fact that he did not intervene? We'll bad things happen in this world and it is the fault of man.

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This is a dreadfully old chestnut, and has been answered more times than Pascal's Wager, but I'll have (another) lash.

The free will argument to exculpate God from moral evil doesn't work, as God could have allowed only the existence of those beings who would - of their own free will - never commit moral evil.

Go.

Boru

Why wouldn't God give us free will? He is a very merciful and kind being. He gives us free will in the interest of man, so we can live the life we want to live, instead of being forced to do whatever God wants us to do, to God and us, that sounds like a terrible thing

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(June 10, 2014 at 11:31 am)Minimalist Wrote:

(June 10, 2014 at 3:15 am)Theonewhoanswersyourquestions Wrote: And that is your free will and I feel sorry for you that you feel that way

Don't. You are a deluded infant. Grow up.

You're on your own. There is no eternal sky-daddy watching your back.

I feel since I'm the rules it states were not allowed to derogate your beliefs you shouldn't be able to insult ours. If I were to say open your eyes look around and see all the proof of God, or give God a chance, I'd be reported or punished more likely, yet you have all the right to directly insult ME as a person, I feel that is way unfair