(June 10, 2014 at 9:24 pm)Napoléon Wrote: And then there's the issues I have with the game world. How nothing you ever do has real consequence. This is the biggest blight in the Elder Scrolls series in my opinion.

There's that. I was playing TES3 the other day and goaded the Archmage into attacking me. Then I murdered him and took his Necromancer's Ring.

Didn't even get booted from the guild.

(June 10, 2014 at 9:32 pm)thesummerqueen Wrote: Probably because it's being rated by fangirls like me

It's like Lord of the Rings - people think it's boring, formulaic, somewhat sexist, blah blah blah.

Fuck those people. I love those books.

And I love that game.

I don't disagree, doesn't stop Skyrim or even Lord of the Rings from being overrated though does it?

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(June 10, 2014 at 10:46 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: There's that. I was playing TES3 the other day and goaded the Archmage into attacking me. Then I murdered him and took his Necromancer's Ring.

Didn't even get booted from the guild.

Ha, fucking sums up exactly what I'm talking about.

(June 11, 2014 at 8:08 am)Napoléon Wrote: I don't disagree, doesn't stop Skyrim or even Lord of the Rings from being overrated though does it?

That's a matter of opinion, which is what I'm trying to express here. I don't think either of them are overrated.

(June 11, 2014 at 8:13 am)thesummerqueen Wrote: That's a matter of opinion, which is what I'm trying to express here. I don't think either of them are overrated.

Objectively, Skyrim is overrated.

It's received so many perfect 10's on review sites. The game has so many issues that it simply doesn't warrant a perfect 10. You cannot deny this. The game is overhyped and overrated.

That does not mean to say I think it is a bad game. That's not at all what I'm saying. Like I said earlier in this thread, I've put 600 hours into Skyrim, I do indeed love it. But I can't consider it a perfect game, a game that I would give a 10/10 to. That's why it's overrated. Honestly, I think anyone who disagrees must be viewing Skyrim with some rose-tinted glasses.

I don't think a game has to be perfect to be a 10/10.

Truth or Dare is really lame in single player mode.

(June 11, 2014 at 8:23 am)thesummerqueen Wrote: I don't think a game has to be perfect to be a 10/10.

I think a game has to be at least exceptional and without major faults in every aspect to warrant such a score. Maybe it doesn't have to be perfect, but it better be damn near that if you're giving it such a score. Skyrim just isn't. If you want to be blind to Skyrim's issues then by all means go ahead, I can't be arsed arguing over this and justifying points that are already proven.

I'm not blind to its issues - don't put words in my fucking mouth - and I just came here to rib you a bit, and don't give a fuck if you don't like the game as much as I do. You're the only one arguing about it - I'm only offering my opinion about how games get judged and whether or not *I* think it's an overrated game. My enjoyment level out of it says it's not. Your equally subjective (because seriously, what game doesn't have flaws of some sort) opinion says it is. Fuck-a-doodle-doo for both of us.

(June 11, 2014 at 8:33 am)thesummerqueen Wrote: I'm not blind to its issues - don't put words in my fucking mouth -

Well you certainly seemed to be ignoring them, or at the very least had nothing to say to any of the issues. And let's be honest here, they're big fucking issues. We're not talking about a few little glitches, or minor points. Skyrim has big problems. Problems that have affected every single Elder Scrolls game.

If you don't know what they are then you kinda just prove my point. If you do, then how can you possibly say the game isn't overrated? I seriously don't understand.

Quote:and I just came here to rib you a bit, and don't give a fuck if you don't like the game as much as I do. You're the only one arguing about it - I'm only offering my opinion about how games get judged and whether or not *I* think it's an overrated game.

For someone who came in telling me to shut my mouth (which I understand was a 'ribbing' as I gave you fucking kudos), it certainly seemed like you wanted to have an argument about it. I'm more than happy to discuss it, I wouldn't of made this thread, I at least expect if you're going to disagree to explain why.

Quote: My enjoyment level out of it says it's not. Your equally subjective (because seriously, what game doesn't have flaws of some sort) opinion says it is. Fuck-a-doodle-doo for both of us.

Well you could of just said this in the first place.

I don't think I'm subjective. I think Mass Effect 2 and KotOR 1 are objectively 10/10 games. Red Dead Redemption is a 10/10 game. They do exist. Skyrim isn't one of them.

All I've tried to explain is why objectively Skyrim fails to meet a 10/10 score, no a game doesn't have to be perfect to get one, but a game as flawed as Skyrim simply doesn't deserve a 10/10. Anyone who says otherwise is talking out of their ass as far as I'm concerned, and if you fall into that category, then I'm sorry.

If you didn't want me to react with my opinion on the matter then you shouldn't of quoted me and chimed in with yours. Tit for tat darlin'.

(June 11, 2014 at 8:48 am)Napoléon Wrote: Well you certainly seemed to be ignoring them, or at the very least had nothing to say to any of the issues.

I mod the shit out of the game - is that what you wanted to hear? - and it still has issues. So what? It still captures my imagination and engages my brain.

(June 11, 2014 at 8:48 am)Napoléon Wrote: If you do, then how can you possibly say the game isn't overrated? I seriously don't understand.

It still captures my imagination and engages my brain. - even the vanilla version which glitches out on the Xbox, which I still sometimes play.

(June 11, 2014 at 8:48 am)Napoléon Wrote: it certainly seemed like you wanted to have an argument about it.

Discussion, maybe, argument, no - you and I have hashed out on other threads why I love the game so much - if you've forgotten those discussions, then I'd be happy to list many points again for you.

(June 11, 2014 at 8:48 am)Napoléon Wrote: Anyone who says otherwise is talking out of their ass as far as I'm concerned, and if you fall into that category, then I'm sorry.

Opinions are like assholes then.

(June 11, 2014 at 8:48 am)Napoléon Wrote: If you didn't want me to react with my opinion on the matter then you shouldn't of quoted me and chimed in with yours. Tit for tat darlin'.

I don't think I ever indicated that I wanted to hear only my opinion.