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(June 9, 2014 at 11:43 pm)snowtracks Wrote: not the puddle again. could I have your permission to laminate that for my wallet and carry it around?
No, but you have my permission to actually address the fact that you only look at things from your backward view of "wow, that's unlikely, so it couldn't have happened".
When people win the lottery, snowtracks, does it only happen due to Intelligent Design? Because, it's super unlikely that anyone would win it, yet it happens all the time. Do you know why it happens? Iterative probability.
One guy isn't likely to win the lottery, but you're likely to have one winner when you get millions of participants. You understand this much of statistics, correct?
One planet isn't likely to have the right conditions for life, but there are a lot of planets in the universe, snowtracks. This is the exact same principle as how a few individuals can win the lottery despite it being unlikely for any one person. All your argument of "statistics, therefore God" is showing is that you don't understand statistics.
Stop talking about it. You're making yourself look fucking stupid.
(June 9, 2014 at 11:43 pm)snowtracks Wrote: not the puddle again. could I have your permission to laminate that for my wallet and carry it around?
No, but you have my permission to actually address the fact that you only look at things from your backward view of "wow, that's unlikely, so it couldn't have happened".
When people win the lottery, snowtracks, does it only happen due to Intelligent Design? Because, it's super unlikely that anyone would win it, yet it happens all the time. Do you know why it happens? Iterative probability.
One guy isn't likely to win the lottery, but you're likely to have one winner when you get millions of participants. You understand this much of statistics, correct?
One planet isn't likely to have the right conditions for life, but there are a lot of planets in the universe, snowtracks. This is the exact same principle as how a few individuals can win the lottery despite it being unlikely for any one person. All your argument of "statistics, therefore God" is showing is that you don't understand statistics.
Stop talking about it. You're making yourself look fucking stupid.
here's a question for you mr. there are a lot of planets. who died and put you in charge?
Atheist Credo: A universe by chance that also just happened to admit the observer by chance.
June 11, 2014 at 11:47 am (This post was last modified: June 11, 2014 at 11:48 am by RobbyPants.)
(June 10, 2014 at 11:47 pm)snowtracks Wrote: here's a question for you mr. there are a lot of planets. who died and put you in charge?
What does that even mean?
I never said I was in charge of anything. I am saying you are displaying a fundamental lack of understanding about iterative probability.
Is it likely for one person to win the lottery if they buy one ticket? Is it likely someone will win if 200 million people each buy a ticket? The fact that you admitted there are lots of planets means you either think that the lottery doesn't work or you aren't seeing the similarity here due to compartmentalization.
Which is it? Is it possible for a person to win the lottery or not?
(June 11, 2014 at 10:03 am)Chas Wrote: What does that even mean?
Ha! I responded before I saw your post, and mine was verbatim.
I don't think he meant anything by his comment. He's simply found himself backed into a corner and is lashing out ad hom style. It's the only close-quarters weapon in his arsenal.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
(January 1, 2014 at 11:42 pm)rasetsu Wrote: book of biblical scripture says Joshua fought the battle of Jericho and the walls came tumbling down; book of nature says he did not.
book of biblical scripture says the Israelites migrated out of Egypt; book of nature says they did not.
book of biblical scripture says a global flood occurred; book of nature says it did not.
book of biblical scripture says that sin is transmitted by the flesh; book of nature shows no biological mechanism for the transmission of sin.
book of biblical scripture says we have an immaterial soul; book of nature says we have no such thing animating us, only biological brains.
that's why both books are needed. but even having the one book, God is clearly revealed. there are non-scientific reasons why people don't acknowledge that.
no naturalistic model exist that demonstrates a origin-of-life scenario that involves assembly of dna, rna, proteins, and membrane structures (which has the capacity to control fluids that enter and exit) in such a way to yield a viable cell. in fact, it not even being pursued any longer because the complexity is too overwhelming.
"book of biblical scripture says the Israelites migrated out of Egypt; book of nature says they did not."
not to leave anything behind was fulfillment of prophesy.
then they came out of Egypt, with much gold, silver, jewels, and raiment, which they borrowed of the Egyptians, who were spoiled by them, though very justly; this being but a payment of them for the hard and long service with which they had served them; see the exact fulfillment of prophecy, Exodus 11:2.
Atheist Credo: A universe by chance that also just happened to admit the observer by chance.
(June 12, 2014 at 11:41 pm)snowtracks Wrote: "book of biblical scripture says the Israelites migrated out of Egypt; book of nature says they did not."
not to leave anything behind was fulfillment of prophesy.
then they came out of Egypt, with much gold, silver, jewels, and raiment, which they borrowed of the Egyptians, who were spoiled by them, though very justly; this being but a payment of them for the hard and long service with which they had served them; see the exact fulfillment of prophecy, Exodus 11:2.
"Having no evidence is evidence that it's true!"
I... I just...
You know what? Fuck it. The sentiment expressed here is more than enough to demonstrate what an intractable loon snowtracks really is. I'm out.
Holy fucking shit...
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June 13, 2014 at 1:34 am (This post was last modified: June 13, 2014 at 1:37 am by Ravenshire.)
(June 9, 2014 at 11:43 pm)snowtracks Wrote: suppose a person flipping a coin 100,000 times and every time it comes up 'heads'. it would be a form of the gambler's fallacy to bet the next flip would be 'tails'. such a gambler takes into consideration the possibility that 2^100,000 coin flippers are doing the same and he just happened to be watching the one flipper that got all 'heads' (the law of probability predict with that many samples, one would legitimately flip 100,000 consecutive heads).
You really don't have a single fucking clue, do you?
(June 10, 2014 at 11:47 pm)snowtracks Wrote: here's a question for you mr. there are a lot of planets. who died and put you in charge?
Holy fuck. Is that really the best you've got?
Sad. Just fucking sad.
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