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A Serious Question For Theists
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 (June 15, 2014 at 3:26 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: http://bit.ly/GUCcle 
 A Serious Question For Theists
June 15, 2014 at 3:53 pm
(This post was last modified: June 15, 2014 at 3:53 pm by Rampant.A.I..)
(June 15, 2014 at 3:35 pm)Starvald Demelain Wrote:(June 15, 2014 at 3:26 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: http://bit.ly/GUCcle Sounds like a hell of a "critical thinking" class 
Bad Wolf
Compulsive procrastinator  Religious Views: Agnostic atheist, anti-theist, whovian, misanthrope?
I think he has me on ignore. Too many tough questions, too many tough answers. As Esquilax stated, he's obviously too scared of hearing counter arguments to his beliefs and assertions, that he won't go into any detail about them to avoid scrutiny. Frankly it doesn't work and its pathetic. More disrespectful than GC's infamous paragraph. I have a question to anyone who has been here a few years. Was he always like this, you know the trolling, the undeserved sense of superiority, the evasiveness? Because I have a hard time believing he didn't get banned if he has always been like this.
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House “Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom "If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech 
H0ary H0bbit Religious Views: “Never to suffer would never to have been blessed.” - Edgar Allan Poe RE: A Serious Question For Theists
June 15, 2014 at 4:36 pm
(This post was last modified: June 15, 2014 at 4:37 pm by fr0d0.)
Hey esq. I'm simply not addressing your diversion. Cry all you like, i'm not prepared to wander off the only subject I addressed.
Hi bad wolf. No I don't have you on ignore yet. I simply can't find anything you've addressed at me to be on topic. I assume that you might cotton on so I'm reading what you put. There's still time I guess.
Bad Wolf
Compulsive procrastinator Religious Views: Agnostic atheist, anti-theist, whovian, misanthrope?
You are literally the biggest ass hole I know.
I couldn't care less about staying on topic. When you say something that is wrong, I will address that, regardless of what. It's not my fault that your super inflated ego can't deal with an actual discussion where you could be wrong about the things you assert. You can't just state something stupid and then cry about the criticisms being off-topic. Why are you not banned? You just flat out refuse to discuss anything and you have consistently ignored perefectly valid responses for no reason. In summary, go fuck yourself. Put me on ignore if you want, it would just be another piece of evidence that demonstrates you as a coward.
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House “Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom "If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech
H0ary H0bbit Religious Views: “Never to suffer would never to have been blessed.” - Edgar Allan Poe
Reading through this thread again esq, I've actually been addressing your question directly. You don't see it, but that's what has happened. You dismissed scientism as 'stupid'. It's a word. It describes accurately the over dependence on empiricism that you profess, and that you say 'most' atheists profess. If you want to engage here, please look up the term.
Bad Wolf
Compulsive procrastinator Religious Views: Agnostic atheist, anti-theist, whovian, misanthrope?
You haven't demonstrated this 'over dependence' on empiricism, or that a dependence on empiricism is a bad thing. Have you any examples of empiricism being bad and not finding the answers? Have you found any examples of empiricism being beaten by faith? Bet you can't find em.
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House “Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom "If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech  (June 15, 2014 at 6:12 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Reading through this thread again esq, I've actually been addressing your question directly. You don't see it, but that's what has happened. You dismissed scientism as 'stupid'. It's a word. It describes accurately the over dependence on empiricism that you profess, and that you say 'most' atheists profess. If you want to engage here, please look up the term.Would you be able to quantify an acceptable level of empiricism? Frankly the notion is absurd... 
Quote:I don't understand why you'd come to a discussion forum, and then proceed to reap from visibility any voice that disagrees with you. If you're going to do that, why not just sit in front of a mirror and pat yourself on the back continuously?-Esquilax Evolution - Adapt or be eaten.
H0ary H0bbit Religious Views: “Never to suffer would never to have been blessed.” - Edgar Allan Poe
Empiricism is essential where it applies. I've never said it isn't. Care to address the point rather than what isn't the point?
Sciencing is bad huh
 Cmon frodo
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
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