I agree, saint worship and even rosaries are strange to me and almost idolic in nature. I think what it's an attempt to do is Go back to the old jewish custom of having a medium between God and God's people. Jesus clearly abolished that when he ripped down the curtain though, idk they do it, I'll ask my catholic God-mother.

There is a movement that has been growing quickly here calling themselves The Universal Church, when I was an evangelist I went to one of their meeting to recon the group and inform myself. What I discovered is that they like to use alot of props to supposedly awaken faith or aid your faith. They hand out salt to purge your wallets of whatever it is holding you back from prospering lol, holy roses that are supposed to vanquish any evil presences or influences in your home, and they also give you water from the river Jordan (probably more like the toilet bowl) for you to pour over yourself in the shower or bath. Too funny in my opinion and it appeared to me like a mix of Christianity and some sort of white magic.

(May 15, 2010 at 12:11 am)chatpilot Wrote: There is a movement that has been growing quickly here calling themselves The Universal Church, when I was an evangelist I went to one of their meeting to recon the group and inform myself. What I discovered is that they like to use alot of props to supposedly awaken faith or aid your faith. They hand out salt to purge your wallets of whatever it is holding you back from prospering lol, holy roses that are supposed to vanquish any evil presences or influences in your home, and they also give you water from the river Jordan (probably more like the toilet bowl) for you to pour over yourself in the shower or bath. Too funny in my opinion and it appeared to me like a mix of Christianity and some sort of white magic.

Sounds very much like paganism to me CP. What a bunch of fools!

A salt and vinegar bath is very good for your skin. Salt itself is excellent for rebalancing your electrolytes. And Roses and their perfume DO lift and relax the spirit when ever they are around.

Sounds like a bit of fundemental naturopathy mixed with a bit of aromatherapy to me.

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(May 14, 2010 at 8:48 pm)Xyster Wrote: Yes but it also go's one step further as to say "or any likeness of ANYTHING that is......" Me personaly I would go with nothing. It looks more like christians (and jews for that matter) are treading in a grey area and praying they are right. It could be looked at as an Idol even if it is of your god or has somthing to do with your god it clearly says thou shalt not make image or likeness of anything... From the reading of the commandment if you some how met god and took a picture then made a statue of HIM/HER/IT you would still be in violation....


But then again lucky for you it's just all made up.....

Just proof positive that the Judaic/ Islamic / Christian faith is a load of superstitious make believe, where you get to "cherry pick" what suits you. Funny sort of god in my opinion, sounding more and more like a politician than anything else.

So I wonders...
"Is Judaic/ Islamic/ Christianiy humanity's first attempts at democracy?? And nothing more?? If so then all the wars that were fought in it's name would make sense as they are STILL being fought today (2000 years after the fact)

If that is the case!!

Watson, my son, do not fret these atheists as I know you did not make those graven images in your possession.

Some sweatshop in china did and you merely purchased them. You're off the hook.

Now, as far as that 'spilling your seed' thing. Can't let that one go, you should know this from the story of Onan. So depart from me ye cursed, ye never knew me.

Off to Hell with ye.

I damn near spilled my seed reading that.

(May 14, 2010 at 10:06 am)Xyster Wrote: Dear Christian

It has come to my attention that most of you have no Idea what your holy book says, and those that do IGNORE parts or do mental gymnastics that would put an olympic gold medal gymnist to shame in order to justify it to themselves. Here at my desk I have 2 bibles KJV and NIV and according to these so called holy books if you wear or own a Crusifix you are in direct violation of the 2nd commandment. Its not like its some obscure commandment its number TWO and you peeps cant even get it right......

Xyster seems to me that you did not read the entire second commandment yourself. You are cherry picking to ridicule christians. There are three verses that make up the second commandment the 2nd verse of the commandment gives meaning to the 1st verse. Others have already tried to explain this to you but you ignor what has been stated by them so you can run down christians. Please study scripture before you quote it . If one were to take only the 1st verse of the second commandment then art would be sinful and because artistic talent was given to man by God that would make the second commandment a contradiction. However the 2nd verse explains we are not to worship art, so art in itself is not sinful unless it is used that way (worship, pornography and ect.).

(May 15, 2010 at 10:43 am)Paul the Human Wrote: Which Ten Commandments?

You were saying godschild??

great find paul

(May 15, 2010 at 10:40 am)Godschild Wrote: Xyster seems to me that you did not read the entire second commandment yourself. You are cherry picking to ridicule christians. There are three verses that make up the second commandment the 2nd verse of the commandment gives meaning to the 1st verse. Others have already tried to explain this to you but you ignor what has been stated by them so you can run down christians. Please study scripture before you quote it . If one were to take only the 1st verse of the second commandment then art would be sinful and because artistic talent was given to man by God that would make the second commandment a contradiction. However the 2nd verse explains we are not to worship art, so art in itself is not sinful unless it is used that way (worship, pornography and ect.).

Yes I did read it all thank you verry much There is 2 ways you can take exodus 20:5 you can take it as clarifyer or a further more.... I'm just saying your treading in the grey area.... If there was eternal torment for piddly shit I sure wouldent test it out.