Posts: 597
Threads: 133
Joined: March 17, 2012
Reputation:
5
RE: Nuclear Iran a bigger threat than ISIS
July 17, 2014 at 9:55 pm
(This post was last modified: July 17, 2014 at 9:57 pm by mralstoner.)
(July 17, 2014 at 3:34 pm)Rhythm Wrote: I'm conflicted op.....are you being satirical or should I read that post straight? If that question was directed at me, yes the original post is completely serious. Maybe "Charles Krauthammer says so" sounded flippant, but it wasn't meant to.
Iran will soon have the nukes and, yes, they have a lunatic end-times theology that involves creating apocalyptic nuclear war to bring back the 12th Imam. These are not people you can negotiate with, because they do not have the concept of rational self-interest. They are complete religious looney tunes. Total nutjobs. Barking. Nuclear. Mad.
Unbelievable but true. Mutually assured destruction does not apply to these lunatics. They are nuclear suicide bombers.
Posts: 66369
Threads: 140
Joined: June 28, 2011
Reputation:
160
RE: Nuclear Iran a bigger threat than ISIS
July 17, 2014 at 10:00 pm
(This post was last modified: July 17, 2014 at 10:01 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
They don't seem any more or less mad than the end times looney tunes we have in the states. Ours have somehow managed to control themselves, Iran's can probably do the same. It's a liability in both cases either way though, agreed. MAD is a suicide pact just the same as any.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
Posts: 597
Threads: 133
Joined: March 17, 2012
Reputation:
5
RE: Nuclear Iran a bigger threat than ISIS
July 17, 2014 at 10:25 pm
(This post was last modified: July 17, 2014 at 10:28 pm by mralstoner.)
(July 17, 2014 at 10:00 pm)Rhythm Wrote: They don't seem any more or less mad than the end times looney tunes we have in the states. Ours have somehow managed to control themselves, Iran's can probably do the same. It's a liability in both cases either way though, agreed. MAD is a suicide pact just the same as any. Bollocks. Where is the equivalent Christian theology that say fomenting apocalyptic nuclear war will hasten the end times and return of the 12th Imam? Where are the equivalent Christian groups calling for the genocide of Israel? Another baseless lazy abstract generality devoid of reality, all to perpetuate the comforting delusion that Iran is not a existential nuclear threat. Demented pollyannaish arguments just to help you sleep at night. An irrational lullaby.
Skip to 2:25 in this video. Melanie Phillips: "I don't believe we can negotiate with Iran".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYNwcxMe-8I
Posts: 66369
Threads: 140
Joined: June 28, 2011
Reputation:
160
RE: Nuclear Iran a bigger threat than ISIS
July 17, 2014 at 10:31 pm
(This post was last modified: July 17, 2014 at 10:32 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
You weren't aware that one of the motivations for supporting Israel is to encourage the end times to hurry the fuck up? How would the existence of any of these people or their beliefs help me sleep at night?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
Posts: 69247
Threads: 3759
Joined: August 2, 2009
Reputation:
259
RE: Nuclear Iran a bigger threat than ISIS
July 17, 2014 at 10:52 pm
Quote:They are complete religious looney tunes. Total nutjobs. Barking. Nuclear. Mad.
They aren't alone.
![[Image: gop_bible.jpeg]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=api.ning.com%2Ffiles%2FosWg5owPi8ESkdiSdToMhyF7TNvop5q1c%2Ap2n37dnnb3sNzxibuZy7tSo4WvqaMnQ82DQ6Md4HorcO3t486pHM%2AtB5oFrGZM%2Fgop_bible.jpeg)
Posts: 6990
Threads: 89
Joined: January 6, 2012
Reputation:
104
RE: Nuclear Iran a bigger threat than ISIS
July 18, 2014 at 2:54 am
Melanie Phillips is a hack journalist who writes for a hack, racist, anti intellectual, xenophobic, pro Christian climate change denying newspaper.
Not saying that your points aren't valid (I haven't looked into them), but don't cite her as a source for anything.
Posts: 5598
Threads: 112
Joined: July 16, 2012
Reputation:
74
RE: Nuclear Iran a bigger threat than ISIS
July 18, 2014 at 4:01 am
(July 17, 2014 at 10:25 pm)mralstoner Wrote: Bollocks. Where is the equivalent Christian theology that say fomenting apocalyptic nuclear war will hasten the end times and return of the 12th Imam?
The whole stupid Israel adventure, for the fundies, has everything to do with bringing about the end times. And cashing in on all that sweet black gold until then, naturally.
Quote:Where are the equivalent Christian groups calling for the genocide of Israel?
What about Muslims? Plenty of Christians in America wouldn't mind a good old fashioned nuclear massacre of every turban-wearing person in the world, just to make sure.
Quote:Another baseless lazy abstract generality devoid of reality, all to perpetuate the comforting delusion that Iran is not a existential nuclear threat. Demented pollyannaish arguments just to help you sleep at night. An irrational lullaby.
Sounds more to me like a lazy abstract designed to perpetuate US involvement in Israel and the fruitless drive for hegemony in the Middle East, with just enough possibility in it to make xenophobes want to go and start the bombin'.
Posts: 13051
Threads: 66
Joined: February 7, 2011
Reputation:
92
RE: Nuclear Iran a bigger threat than ISIS
July 18, 2014 at 4:50 am
I don't trust my politicians with nuclear weapons any more than I trust the Iranians, yet I still sleep at night.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
Posts: 597
Threads: 133
Joined: March 17, 2012
Reputation:
5
RE: Nuclear Iran a bigger threat than ISIS
July 18, 2014 at 5:27 am
Farking hell. Plenty of atheist looney tunes here too. Can't discriminate between real and imagined threats to save their lives. Eloi, all of you.
Posts: 6990
Threads: 89
Joined: January 6, 2012
Reputation:
104
RE: Nuclear Iran a bigger threat than ISIS
July 18, 2014 at 5:32 am
Right back at you.
|
![[Image: 146748944129044_zpsomrzyn3d.gif]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i629.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fuu13%2FRXM843%2F146748944129044_zpsomrzyn3d.gif)
