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RE: Modern feminism
July 20, 2014 at 6:22 pm
(July 20, 2014 at 6:21 pm)Bad Wolf Wrote: Your morality doesn't make sense. Morals exist because we don't live in a vacuum. Things that actually hurt other people are deemed immoral. Having sex with lots of people doesn't hurt anyone and that is why it isn't immoral. I wouldn't want to have sex with a person that has sex 20 times a week either but thats got nothing to do with morality. They probably have an std, plus any woman who has sex that often is either a hooker or has something wrong with them. And thats why your morality doesn't make sense.
Ok personal preference, it doesn't matter either. I was just stating if I have that preference I'm not slut shaming
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RE: Modern feminism
July 20, 2014 at 6:24 pm
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RE: Modern feminism
July 20, 2014 at 6:25 pm
Insanity if what I'm talking about is a personal preference and not morality then fine, the result of my point is the same, I was just saying I am not slut shaming if I have a personal preference for women who have had fewer partners, I feel more secure in a relationship with that requirement, is there anything wrong with that? I think women should be able to require the same from men too.
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RE: Modern feminism
July 20, 2014 at 6:26 pm
(July 20, 2014 at 6:19 pm)Blackout Wrote: I thank critics if they are constructive, but you calling my morality retarded is not going to improve anything and will only serve to bring up a conflict if I wasn't such a collected calm person. You can critique all you want, I don't care if it's a personal preference or sexual morality, I still think we should classify it as the latter, and I don't see any reason not to. Even if we used the expression 'personal preference' there are causes for preferences, some merely aesthetically, others could be related to morality and ethics, even if it was a personal preference it could have a morality cause, have you heard of sexual morality? If someone thought anal sex is immoral, what is wrong with that? If they think it's immoral, they don't practice it, it's simple, the same could be applied to oral sex, threesomes, eg I could say a threesome is sexually immoral if it's with my girlfriend since we are sharing our intimacy with a third party (I don't consider this immoral, it's actually she who thinks like this). So what's wrong in having my own thinking if I'm not forcing it into others?
Because when lots of people who all agree on something being immoral, get together, they legislate laws based on their opinion. Homosexuality for example. Homosexuals were persecuted greatly in the past and in some places they still are. Homosexuality isn't immoral because it doesn't hurt anyone. Anal sex isn't immoral because it doesn't hurt anyone. Threesomes are not immoral because they don't hurt anyone.
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RE: Modern feminism
July 20, 2014 at 6:26 pm
(July 20, 2014 at 6:19 pm)Blackout Wrote: I thank critics if they are constructive, but you calling my morality retarded is not going to improve anything and will only serve to bring up a conflict if I wasn't such a collected calm person. I joined in after you threw a little wobbly for people calling your opinion naive. I continued to reply to you despite you clearly not seeming to get it so I think thats constructive enough.
(July 20, 2014 at 6:19 pm)Blackout Wrote: You can critique all you want, I don't care if it's a personal preference or sexual morality, I still think we should classify it as the latter, and I don't see any reason not to. That's stupid too. Calling all your preferences morality is just weird. Seriously, perhaps I might start calling everyone who doesn't like pizza immoral.
(July 20, 2014 at 6:19 pm)Blackout Wrote: If someone thought anal sex is immoral, what is wrong with that? If they think it's immoral, they don't practice it, it's simple, the same could be applied to oral sex, threesomes, eg I could say a threesome is sexually immoral if it's with my girlfriend since we are sharing our intimacy with a third party (I don't consider this immoral, it's actually she who thinks like this). So what's wrong in having my own thinking if I'm not forcing it into others? But by out and out calling a behavior with no context immoral is implying that others who do make the choice to do it are making an immoral one. Its just bizarre and unnecessary. Its a preference, that implies that it is not a matter of right or wrong just a choice based on personal feelings towards the thing.
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RE: Modern feminism
July 20, 2014 at 6:26 pm
(July 20, 2014 at 6:26 pm)Bad Wolf Wrote: (July 20, 2014 at 6:19 pm)Blackout Wrote: I thank critics if they are constructive, but you calling my morality retarded is not going to improve anything and will only serve to bring up a conflict if I wasn't such a collected calm person. You can critique all you want, I don't care if it's a personal preference or sexual morality, I still think we should classify it as the latter, and I don't see any reason not to. Even if we used the expression 'personal preference' there are causes for preferences, some merely aesthetically, others could be related to morality and ethics, even if it was a personal preference it could have a morality cause, have you heard of sexual morality? If someone thought anal sex is immoral, what is wrong with that? If they think it's immoral, they don't practice it, it's simple, the same could be applied to oral sex, threesomes, eg I could say a threesome is sexually immoral if it's with my girlfriend since we are sharing our intimacy with a third party (I don't consider this immoral, it's actually she who thinks like this). So what's wrong in having my own thinking if I'm not forcing it into others?
Because when lots of people who all agree on something being immoral, get together, they legislate laws based on their opinion. Homosexuality for example. Homosexuals were persecuted greatly in the past and in some places they still are. Homosexuality isn't immoral because it doesn't hurt anyone. Anal sex isn't immoral because it doesn't hurt anyone. Threesomes are not immoral because they don't hurt anyone. Sure it's a sexual preference then, I got it, thanks for all the inputs
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RE: Modern feminism
July 20, 2014 at 6:27 pm
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(July 20, 2014 at 6:25 pm)Blackout Wrote: Insanity if what I'm talking about is a personal preference and not morality then fine, the result of my point is the same, I was just saying I am not slut shaming if I have a personal preference for women who have had fewer partners, I feel more secure in a relationship with that requirement, is there anything wrong with that? I think women should be able to require the same from men too.
No mother fucker dude thats my entire point...
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Sorry for accidentally derailing this.. as you were.
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RE: Modern feminism
July 20, 2014 at 6:30 pm
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Quote:I joined in after you threw a little wobbly for people calling your opinion naive. I continued to reply to you despite you clearly not seeming to get it so I think thats constructive enough.
It was constructive. It wasn't when you used words like 'retarded' that only serve the purpose of annoyance, I have the right to point the flaws in your critics too... And I got 'wobbly' because I was thinking people wanted to impose me a different preference/morality and I confused both terms so I kinda got into unnecessary annoyance. And I'm a very naive person so that's not something that offends me, I'm not ashamed to say I'm largely egocentric
Quote:That's stupid too. Calling all your preferences morality is just weird. Seriously, perhaps I might start calling everyone who doesn't like pizza immoral.
Sure, it's true.
Quote:But by out and out calling a behavior with no context immoral is implying that others who do make the choice to do it are making an immoral one. Its just bizarre and unnecessary. Its a preference, that implies that it is not a matter of right or wrong just a choice based on personal feelings towards the thing.
Agree.
Quote:No mother fucker dude thats my entire point...
So?
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RE: Modern feminism
July 20, 2014 at 6:33 pm
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(July 20, 2014 at 6:30 pm)Blackout Wrote: It was constructive. It wasn't when you used words like 'retarded' that only serve the purpose of annoyance, I have the right to point the flaws in your critics too..
Tis my style, don't take it personally.
And yes you do.
(July 20, 2014 at 6:30 pm)Blackout Wrote: So? Exactly
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RE: Modern feminism
July 20, 2014 at 6:35 pm
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(July 20, 2014 at 6:33 pm)Insanity Wrote: (July 20, 2014 at 6:30 pm)Blackout Wrote: It was constructive. It wasn't when you used words like 'retarded' that only serve the purpose of annoyance, I have the right to point the flaws in your critics too..
Tis my style, don't take it personally.
And yes you do.
Sure. But going back to my point, I was just saying having a preference doesn't make me a slut shamer. And it doesn't, I just don't feel comfortable being in a relationship with someone who had multiple partners. That's my choice.
(July 20, 2014 at 5:10 pm)GalacticBusDriver Wrote: (July 20, 2014 at 8:45 am)Blackout Wrote: I think it's immoral for someone to have sex with 20 people a week that doesn't mean I'm slut shaming anyone
Your naiveté is almost cute sometimes.
I meant it's a personal preference, not an immorality, sorry for the misunderstanding GalacticBusDriver. I was just saying not having a preference for someone who has had multiple sex partners doesn't make me a slut shamer.
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