Atrocities have been caused by non-Muslims? Wow shocking. Muslims are about 1/6th of the world's population, yet out of the 11 active wars going on 9 of them involve Muslims.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ong..._conflicts

(July 23, 2014 at 9:58 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: Atrocities have been caused by non-Muslims? Wow shocking. Muslims are about 1/6th of the world's population, yet out of the 11 active wars going on 9 of them involve Muslims.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ong..._conflicts

You're right. I don't know if the list is full. If we see the conflicts with 1,000 or more deaths per year. We can constate that in 9/11 of them Muslims are implied in the war.

Conflict where they are implied :
1.Israeli-Palestinian Conflict (Israel VS Pro-Palestinians Muslims Groups such Hamas)
2.War in Afghanistan (Afghanistan and his allies VS Muslims groups such Taliban)
3.Somali Civil War (Somalia and AMISOM VS Muslim groups such Al-Shabaab)
4.Islamist Insurgency in Nigeria (Nigeria and his allies VS Muslim groups such Boko Haram)
5.War in North-West Pakistan (Pakistan and his allies VS Muslim Groups such Tehrik-i-Taliban-Pakistan)
6.Egyptian Crisis (Egypt VS Muslim Groups such Muslim Brotherhood)
7.Syria Civil War (Syria and Iran VS Muslim Groups such Al-Nosra Front VS Kurdish groups such People's Defence Units and Assyrian Groups such Syriac Millitary Council)
8.Iraqi Insurgency (Iraq and his allies VS Muslim Groups such Islamic State that was ISIL)
9.South Sundanese Civil War (Christians and Animists VS Muslims. I don't say what's the main entities who take part to this conflict because it's really complicate to resume).

Conflicts where only non-Muslims are implied :
1.Mexican Drug War (Mexico VS Criminal Groups such Sinaloa Cartel VS Criminal Groups such Los Zetas)
2.2014 Insurgency in Donbass (Russia and his allies VS Ukraine and his allies)

What can we conclude with these data ?

(July 27, 2014 at 10:07 pm)viocjit Wrote:

(July 23, 2014 at 9:58 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: Atrocities have been caused by non-Muslims? Wow shocking. Muslims are about 1/6th of the world's population, yet out of the 11 active wars going on 9 of them involve Muslims.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ong..._conflicts

You're right. I don't know if the list is full. If we see the conflicts with 1,000 or more deaths per year. We can constate that in 9/11 of them Muslims are implied in the war.

Conflict where they are implied :
1.Israeli-Palestinian Conflict (Israel VS Pro-Palestinians Muslims Groups such Hamas)
2.War in Afghanistan (Afghanistan and his allies VS Muslims groups such Taliban)
3.Somali Civil War (Somalia and AMISOM VS Muslim groups such Al-Shabaab)
4.Islamist Insurgency in Nigeria (Nigeria and his allies VS Muslim groups such Boko Haram)
5.War in North-West Pakistan (Pakistan and his allies VS Muslim Groups such Tehrik-i-Taliban-Pakistan)
6.Egyptian Crisis (Egypt VS Muslim Groups such Muslim Brotherhood)
7.Syria Civil War (Syria and Iran VS Muslim Groups such Al-Nosra Front VS Kurdish groups such People's Defence Units and Assyrian Groups such Syriac Millitary Council)
8.Iraqi Insurgency (Iraq and his allies VS Muslim Groups such Islamic State that was ISIL)
9.South Sundanese Civil War (Christians and Animists VS Muslims. I don't say what's the main entities who take part to this conflict because it's really complicate to resume).

Conflicts where only non-Muslims are implied :
1.Mexican Drug War (Mexico VS Criminal Groups such Sinaloa Cartel VS Criminal Groups such Los Zetas)
2.2014 Insurgency in Donbass (Russia and his allies VS Ukraine and his allies)

What can we conclude with these data ?

That the post hoc fallacy is alive and well?

(July 27, 2014 at 10:57 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:

(July 27, 2014 at 10:07 pm)viocjit Wrote: You're right. I don't know if the list is full. If we see the conflicts with 1,000 or more deaths per year. We can constate that in 9/11 of them Muslims are implied in the war.

Conflict where they are implied :
1.Israeli-Palestinian Conflict (Israel VS Pro-Palestinians Muslims Groups such Hamas)
2.War in Afghanistan (Afghanistan and his allies VS Muslims groups such Taliban)
3.Somali Civil War (Somalia and AMISOM VS Muslim groups such Al-Shabaab)
4.Islamist Insurgency in Nigeria (Nigeria and his allies VS Muslim groups such Boko Haram)
5.War in North-West Pakistan (Pakistan and his allies VS Muslim Groups such Tehrik-i-Taliban-Pakistan)
6.Egyptian Crisis (Egypt VS Muslim Groups such Muslim Brotherhood)
7.Syria Civil War (Syria and Iran VS Muslim Groups such Al-Nosra Front VS Kurdish groups such People's Defence Units and Assyrian Groups such Syriac Millitary Council)
8.Iraqi Insurgency (Iraq and his allies VS Muslim Groups such Islamic State that was ISIL)
9.South Sundanese Civil War (Christians and Animists VS Muslims. I don't say what's the main entities who take part to this conflict because it's really complicate to resume).

Conflicts where only non-Muslims are implied :
1.Mexican Drug War (Mexico VS Criminal Groups such Sinaloa Cartel VS Criminal Groups such Los Zetas)
2.2014 Insurgency in Donbass (Russia and his allies VS Ukraine and his allies)

What can we conclude with these data ?

That the post hoc fallacy is alive and well?

Post hoc deals with the order of events happening, just because an event happens before another one doesn't mean it is the cause of it. If you are going to do the always rather douchey thing of just stating a logical fallacy rather than arguing a point you should at least use the correct fallacy. I assume that you are aguing that just because Muslims are involved in a war doesn't mean that the war is caused by Islam (which is almost similar to post hoc) That really only works if you were to look at a single case. If most of the wars in the world involve a group that is only a 20% of the population, it would be a big coincidence.

I believe the fallacy you're looking for is cum hoc ergo propter hoc.