There are so many things I would like to refute, but many have already did. But I would like to concede that, atleast here in SD, the atheist community (secular, humanist, whatever) could use a lot of improvement. Coming out of religion, and the sort of financial and material support one can receive from religion makes the atheist contribution look rather pubescent. But, we don't manipulate our fellow atheists promising virgins, riches, and godly power (or all the opposite) after death and hence the people who do work and donate in the atheist community do it from their true philanthropic nature, not through some scare of hell or promise of omnipotence.

Though this is quite the double edged sword, good because most atheists are pretty damn genuine, we have nothing to manipulate those atheists who don't care so much. BUT...though you don't see atheists painting walls and handing "god loves you" bumper stickers, many atheist place a lot of value in their profession. It's called being secular and I know many atheist who do a damn good job changing lives being secular in various secular activities.

(August 13, 2014 at 12:23 am)Polaris Wrote:

(August 12, 2014 at 11:46 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: That is stupid, inaccurate, offensive and not worthy of comment beyond that.

So pretty much true then.

truth (n)
1. something that is stupid, inaccurate, offensive, and unworthy of further comment

If this is how Christians define 'truth', I can understand why they find so much of it in the Bible. No other definition of the word is even remotely compatible with it.

(August 13, 2014 at 12:23 am)Polaris Wrote:

(August 12, 2014 at 11:46 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: That is stupid, inaccurate, offensive and not worthy of comment beyond that.

So pretty much true then.

I don't get you. Why do you find this kind of contrarian point scoring appealing?

(August 12, 2014 at 8:18 pm)Polaris Wrote: Pretty sure Alabama is the South....you're just mad because where you live is the laughing stock of the United States and for good reason as well.

You'll notice that I didn't disagree with that.

(August 12, 2014 at 8:18 pm)Polaris Wrote: I only had to go one mile out of the DC to see "The South Will Rise Again," but even that area was much less like the South than Washington D.C.. Anyone who's been to all parts of the city knows just how awful it truly is...basically 3rd World nations have better statistics than Washington D.C.

So what? I've seen Conferderate flag bumper-stickers in Southern California. Does that make it part of the South?

(August 12, 2014 at 8:18 pm)Polaris Wrote: I saw those better qualities, which was why I stated good things about Williamsburg and the region of North Carolina I visited. Your stereotypical pro-American BS keeps you focusing on the worst of perceptions people have about you.

Nonsense. What is irksome is your tendency to overgeneralize, and extrapolate the worst of what you saw to everyone from the South. That marks you as a bigot, in your own way.

Good to know that you enlightened Europeans can be just as dumb as the worst of us Americans.

(August 13, 2014 at 11:24 pm)Polaris Wrote: The Christians don't gloat about taking down American atheists. They just seem to be concerned about you.

Wholly untrue. I've seen it, I've overheard it, I've had decent Christians come up and tell me about exactly this kind of bullshit going on behind my back.

Hey, I get not wanting your side to be full of assholes but unfortunately they're still people, people are universally assholes. We all have to deal with that. Get over it.

Quote:The atheists on the other hand just want to make sure you don't embarrass them by having others think all atheists are like you guys.

Hmmm ~scans up one inch~

Quote:I find it humorous when you people whine when when others overgeneralize about the type of people you associate with yet you have no issues doing the same towards other groups.

Wow. Pot and Kettle in the same reply. Humorous indeed!

(August 13, 2014 at 11:24 pm)Polaris Wrote: It's not my fault you have atheists in America who refuse to acknowledge the many criticisms about their lack of connection to non-whites.

We refuse to acknowledge them because they aren't relevant. Atheism has nothing to do with race.

(August 13, 2014 at 11:24 pm)Polaris Wrote: It's an area that fellow atheists in that nation have brought up as a major issue.

No it isn't. That is the first time I have ever seen anyone complaining about the issue and the article was clearly written by a black guy with serious prejudice, it was full of buzzwords.