(August 19, 2014 at 4:07 am)revivin Wrote: God is more than just a concept, but the uncreated Creator.

Stating it from a subjective viewpoint without the proper evidence to support the extraordinary claim does not make it thus.

(August 19, 2014 at 4:08 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: Special Pleading.

I am not special pleading. I am just giving you the definition I put to what God is -- uncreated Creator.

(August 19, 2014 at 4:10 am)revivin Wrote:

(August 19, 2014 at 4:08 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: Special Pleading.

I am not special pleading. I am just giving you the definition I put to what God is -- uncreated Creator.

That is the definition of special pleading, numbnuts.

Unless you can provide something tangible that will dispel your fallacious reasoning it will remain just that.

Have you ever even bothered to look up the basic fallacies? Have you ever engaged in a debate before? What you're posting is nonsensical drivel.

You're sure doing a good job for Jésus. I'm sure if he existed he'd be really proud. Now, are you going to engage in an intellectually honest debate or not? If you just say no it will expedite the whole process.

(August 19, 2014 at 4:13 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: That is the definition

I am just telling you what I define God to be as the uncreated Creator.

(August 19, 2014 at 4:10 am)revivin Wrote: I am just giving you the definition I put to what God is -- uncreated Creator.

I don't think you have enough appreciation for nothing. Nothing is uncreated.

(August 19, 2014 at 4:20 am)stonedape Wrote: Nothing is uncreated.

Uncreated means it always existed. God always existed.

(August 19, 2014 at 4:16 am)revivin Wrote:

(August 19, 2014 at 4:13 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: That is the definition

I am just telling you what I define God to be as the uncreated Creator.

Your definition is self-refuting then.

(August 19, 2014 at 4:10 am)revivin Wrote:

(August 19, 2014 at 4:08 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: Special Pleading.

I am not special pleading. I am just giving you the definition I put to what God is -- uncreated Creator.

Sorry, but when your argument is "everything needs a cause to exist, except for god who doesn't," then you are special pleading, and you believe in something that breaks the rules you're trying to put in place.

Fallacy.

(August 19, 2014 at 4:21 am)revivin Wrote:

(August 19, 2014 at 4:20 am)stonedape Wrote: Nothing is uncreated.

Uncreated means it always existed. God always existed.

Nothing exists. Nothing really matters. Nothing is eternal.

(August 19, 2014 at 4:24 am)Esquilax Wrote: Sorry, but when your argument is "everything needs a cause to exist, except for god who doesn't," then you are special pleading, and you believe in something that breaks the rules you're trying to put in place.

Everything in nature needs a cause to exist, but that implies infinite regress of cause and effects which would entail you having had an eternity to come into being before now so you should have already happened. So nature needs a cause outside of itself, outside of time and space, being uncreated by the uncreated Creator.