(August 22, 2014 at 9:02 am)FreeTony Wrote: The non-radical ones will say that those passages are being used "out of context" or some other bullshit excuse. Would a Christian that stones someone to death for blasphemy be a radical one or not? They are just following the bible. Go to Africa and watch Christians murder gay people for a modern day example.

You do know what the word context means right? If so then pick up a Koran and read the passages yourself and establish the context for yourself. Isn't that what 'thinkers' are supposed to do?

Quote:It is the rise of secular values in the West that has forced modern Christianity to adapt and lose the more barbaric elements. The same has happened to many Muslims living in the West, though it is a slow process.

this is what happens when you let someone wash your brain for you.

Christianity changed because the warlord state was not biblically supported.

Quote:I'd recommend reading "The Looming Tower" which is an account of the roots of modern extreme Islam up to the 9/11 attacks.

What a crock of shit.

"Moderate" Muslims use abrogation as an excuse for cherry picking the quran. I know I did.
But the hadiths were explicitly barbaric.

(August 21, 2014 at 10:27 pm)Drich Wrote: I could post a like but I figure if your here you can google it yourself.

This is an atheist forum, and here is a perfect example of religion gone terribly wrong, and nothing is said?

Maybe I'm in the wrong sub forum. Maybe their is a hot debate in the mathematics sub forum, I don't know about.

Where is the out rage, where is the shock? Where is the call to arms against the fanatics? Or does that only apply to Christianity, and it's desire to keep marriage between one man and one woman?

How about you go and get yourself an education about terrorism and the nations who are know to have funded it.

When you have learned a little more you can come visit me here in Britain and I'll take you on a tour of the places the IRA bombed on the mainland here in the UK - with your fucking money.

Sanctimonious wanker.

MM

(August 22, 2014 at 8:54 am)Drich Wrote: Then please show me where in the bible (as you did with the Quran) where Christians are to do act this way? We are told by Christ to submit to our governments.

Please.....

Told to act what way? Have you actually ever read the Old Testament? Where do you think the Qu'ran came from? And then even the NT has Jesus coming back to kill all the unbelievers with a sword in his mouth and the blood running as deep as a horse's bridle.

Please....

Cue the "but we have the fancy shamcy New Testament with lovey, dovey, hippy drippy Jeebus". But that doesn't wash as know from history how often OT passages have been invoked to justify all manner of Christian atrocities against humanity. Everything from hating gays to killing witches, and condoning slavery.

(August 22, 2014 at 9:19 am)JesusHChrist Wrote:

(August 22, 2014 at 8:54 am)Drich Wrote: Then please show me where in the bible (as you did with the Quran) where Christians are to do act this way? We are told by Christ to submit to our governments.

Please.....

Told to act what way? Have you actually ever read the Old Testament? Where do you think the Qu'ran came from? And then even the NT has Jesus coming back to kill all the unbelievers with a sword in his mouth and the blood running as deep as a horse's bridle.

Please....

Cue the "but we have the fancy shamcy New Testament with lovey, dovey, hippy drippy Jeebus". But that doesn't wash as know from history how often OT passages have been invoked to justify all manner of Christian atrocities against humanity. Everything from hating gays to killing witches, and condoning slavery.

I'm expecting more of the "That's what God is going to do, not us" kind of thing.

I dont know what I'm more shocked about, that a Muslim would chop someone's head off for Allah or that Brits are known as "mash bangers" (a term I hadn't heard before and wouldn't have understood if someone had called it me)... I think I'll go with mash banger.

(August 22, 2014 at 9:21 am)jesus_wept Wrote: I dont know what I'm more shocked about, that a Muslim would chop someone's head off for Allah or that Brits are known as "mash bangers" (a term I hadn't heard before and wouldn't have understood if someone had called it me)... I think I'll go with mash banger.

Something about potatoes and sausage I believe.

(August 22, 2014 at 9:23 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Something about potatoes and sausage I believe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangers_and_mash

(August 22, 2014 at 9:27 am)Insanity Wrote:

(August 22, 2014 at 9:23 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Something about potatoes and sausage I believe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangers_and_mash

I wonder what that taste like.