(August 27, 2014 at 10:41 am)Endo Wrote: Something REALLY BIG is going to have to happen in order to achieve the Liberal dream of being basically Japanese on gun laws.

Mass shootings are obviously not enough. I hear ya.

I think that is one of the stories Minimalist posted in the 2nd Amendment thread. And this answers my question as to what kind of gun. I have been handing firearms from an age younger than 9, but nobody in their right mind would have given me an uzi at that age. A 9 year old cannot physically control the drift or climb of a weapon like that, especially the first time they fire it.
Well, just watched the video from that post and it was exactly what I thought it was. Not the recoil like the article states but the drift and climb. I feel bad for all involved but it is obvious to everyone this was a bad idea. The instructor did a terrible job of preparing her. He should have warned her about what happens when you fire a weapon like that. He also should have had his hands on the weapon to prevent it from happening. Really lucky she didn't hit everybody there.

Yes. This shit happens all the time here. Check out Minimalist's posts in the All Hail the 2nd Amendment thread.

(August 27, 2014 at 10:52 am)Napoléon Wrote:

(August 27, 2014 at 10:41 am)Endo Wrote: Something REALLY BIG is going to have to happen in order to achieve the Liberal dream of being basically Japanese on gun laws.

Mass shootings are obviously not enough. I hear ya.

~25% of the adult population of the UK are binge drinkers. Do you think they need to ban alcohol across the pond? Deaths are deaths, right?

I personally would hate to have US gun laws over here, and I do not know a single British person that would. I just cannot understand why people are allowed things that are designed purely to kill people, be it guns, deadly poisons, knives designed to kill humans etc etc. I'm happy that people use sporting/hunting firearms for that purpose alone if properly licenced.

However this is just as likely because I'm used to the laws here, and if I was brought up in America I might perhaps feel differently.

(August 27, 2014 at 11:00 am)Jaysyn Wrote:

(August 27, 2014 at 10:52 am)Napoléon Wrote: Mass shootings are obviously not enough. I hear ya.

~25% of the adult population of the UK are binge drinkers. Do you think they need to ban alcohol across the pond? Deaths are deaths, right?

Binge drinking =/= death, and it's more about endangering other people. You should be allowed to do whatever you want with your own body, but putting others in danger because of one's irresponsibility is where the line is drawn.

Idiot parents. (former) Idiot instructor.

(August 27, 2014 at 11:00 am)Jaysyn Wrote: ~25% of the adult population of the UK are binge drinkers. Do you think they need to ban alcohol across the pond? Deaths are deaths, right?

Oh I'm sorry, I didn't realise 25% of the 9 year olds in my country were binge drinkers. What a ridiculous comparison.

Besides, who mentioned anything about a totalitarian ban.

(August 27, 2014 at 11:02 am)FreeTony Wrote: However this is just as likely because I'm used to the laws here, and if I was brought up in America I might perhaps feel differently.

I do believe you would, especially if you lived in the less urbanized south or western parts of the US.

Personally, I'm glad I had my .38 & didn't have to kill this fucker with a shovel.

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(August 27, 2014 at 11:04 am)Napoléon Wrote:

(August 27, 2014 at 11:00 am)Jaysyn Wrote: ~25% of the adult population of the UK are binge drinkers. Do you think they need to ban alcohol across the pond? Deaths are deaths, right?

Oh I'm sorry, I didn't realise 25% of the 9 year olds in my country were binge drinkers. What a ridiculous comparison.

Besides, who mentioned anything about a totalitarian ban. I do have to agree though, that child should have never been handed an Uzi.

The person you were replying to referenced Japanese gun laws.

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(August 27, 2014 at 11:03 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Binge drinking =/= death, and it's more about endangering other people. You should be allowed to do whatever you want with your own body, but putting others in danger because of one's irresponsibility is where the line is drawn.

There were 1.2 million alcohol-related hospital admissions in England in the year 2011/12, a 135% increase since 2002/03.

Beam in thine eye & all that

(August 27, 2014 at 11:06 am)Jaysyn Wrote: I do believe you would, especially if you lived in the less urbanized south or western parts of the US.

Personally, I'm glad I had my .38 & didn't have to kill this fucker with a shovel.

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What is it with you guys? You'll do anything to justify gun ownership and defend the obviously detrimental gun culture America has. It really baffles me. You're sitting there blaming the instructor, saying he should have given prior warning to the child. Why aren't you asking the question of why it's even legal for a fucking 9 year old to be firing an automatic weapon in the first place? Instead you're just mindlessly defending gun ownership because you might have a few big snakes to kill? I honestly do not understand why your logic goes out the window when anyone from across the pond brings up how retarded your gun culture is.

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(August 27, 2014 at 11:06 am)Jaysyn Wrote: The person you were replying to referenced Japanese gun laws

And your comparison is any better... why exactly?

(August 27, 2014 at 11:11 am)Napoléon Wrote: Why aren't you asking the question of why it's even legal for a fucking 9 year old to be firing an automatic weapon in the first place?

It probably wasn't legal, but I don't know the laws in AZ or TX or whereever they were.