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Oh Come On!!! Damn you Ken Ham!
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RE: Oh Come On!!! Damn you Ken Ham!
(August 27, 2014 at 6:01 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote:
(August 27, 2014 at 5:22 pm)ManMachine Wrote: You Americans are crazy...

If valuing the freedom of ideas and thought makes someone crazy, then you’re right, Americans are crazy. However, being crazy has gotten us quite far in the world.

For once Waldork has a point.... people like him are stupid...not crazy.
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RE: Oh Come On!!! Damn you Ken Ham!
(August 27, 2014 at 5:12 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote:
Quote: In an op-ed at the Lexington Herald-Leader, "Non-Christians need not apply," Phelps explains his concerns.

Why would a non-Christian want to work at the Ark exhibit?

Here's the thing: there are laws in place preventing employee discrimination, as there should be. Job openings for the Ark Encounter, phrased as a tourist attraction in order to apply for tax incentives, require that the applicant be young earth creationist. This is not a legal thing to do.

It's not about a bunch of atheists lining up to work at the Ark whatever, it's about this organization wanting to have its cake and eat it too.
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#23
RE: Oh Come On!!! Damn you Ken Ham!
(August 27, 2014 at 6:09 pm)Rhythm Wrote: A paycheck.

“You creationists are evil and abusing children by lying to them!...but I’ll gladly work for you if you pay me.” Are atheists ever consistent?


Quote: Same reason someone might want to build a religious theme park.

The Creation Museum and AIG’s role in the Ark Encounter are both non-profit, nice try though.

(August 27, 2014 at 6:12 pm)Minimalist Wrote: For once Waldork has a point.... people like him are stupid...not crazy.

Says the old man who has made a habit of getting destroyed in debates by someone he claims is “stupid”. My favorite was when I asked you for a reference and you linked me to somebody’s blog. Classic Min.

(August 27, 2014 at 6:59 pm)Esquilax Wrote: Here's the thing: there are laws in place preventing employee discrimination, as there should be. Job openings for the Ark Encounter, phrased as a tourist attraction in order to apply for tax incentives, require that the applicant be young earth creationist. This is not a legal thing to do.

It's not about a bunch of atheists lining up to work at the Ark whatever, it's about this organization wanting to have its cake and eat it too.

I am sorry but that is simply incorrect ESq. A person’s views on the age and formation of the Earth are not a protected class (try being young-Earth and getting a job at the Museum of Natural History). As a non-public entity AIG can hire whomever they want and for whatever reason they like.
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RE: Oh Come On!!! Damn you Ken Ham!
I'm kinda ok with this. Wonder if it's fun.
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#25
RE: Oh Come On!!! Damn you Ken Ham!
Statler Waldorf


Let me see if I get this straight Statler Waldorf. You are refuting and article that I didn't wrote?
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Because you do realize that since the link was altered(I'm asking for technical assistance I will receive notice from the next 24 to 48 hours to see if anyone else knows what caused it) I did copy paste the article right.
(August 27, 2014 at 4:02 pm)Zidneya Wrote: You know what I'm gonna write the whole article. I know that breaks the rule of pasting from other web sites rule but it's not my fault that the forum alters the web address.
So okay you found some... well you disagree with some of the stuff written there. Well the guy who wrote this article is this fellow.
http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash
Feel free to contact him and tell him all this.



The only thing that I've wrote was:
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(August 27, 2014 at 3:34 pm)Zidneya Wrote: Even Disneyland don't get discounts taxes.

Disneyland is in California, not Kentucky there bub.
But they're both in America aren't they? But okay em different state laws I suppose so…eh… sorry?

One question are you one of those guys who have this complex to prove themselves and others that he is the smartest guy in the room?

There was a name for that wasn't it? But I can't remember.

Because this is the first time that I've seen someone writing larger replies than me in a thread that I've made(and believe me that ain't something that I see every day). Normally I would engage in a whole speech battle debate like I always do. With replies like yours that refute every sentence (but like I said before I didn't wrote this article so whoever you want to refute isn't here pal). And believe me I've made some huge replies in the past.

For more information ask these people:
Mister agenda
rexbeccarox
Losty
Luckie
Muslim atheist…no you know what forget that guy.
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RE: Oh Come On!!! Damn you Ken Ham!
No offence but it amazes me how this still happens, over here in Europe this type of discrimination would be illegal by definition, no one would actually try to implement this policy.
Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you

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RE: Oh Come On!!! Damn you Ken Ham!
(August 27, 2014 at 7:00 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: I am sorry but that is simply incorrect ESq. A person’s views on the age and formation of the Earth are not a protected class (try being young-Earth and getting a job at the Museum of Natural History).

It's not just about young earth views. If you look, the application requires you to sign AiG's statement of faith, which is loaded for bear with religious language up to and including acceptance of the christian god and a literal interpretation of the bible. It also asks that you give "salvation testimony," which I don't think I'm remiss in viewing as a statement of one's own christianity.

Quote: As a non-public entity AIG can hire whomever they want and for whatever reason they like.

The Ark Park, which the position is advertised as being for, is a for profit business entity and thus falls under non-discrimination laws. The claim that the job opening is an in-house AiG position is directly contradicted by the title of the ad itself.
"YOU take the hard look in the mirror. You are everything that is wrong with this world. The only thing important to you, is you." - ronedee

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RE: Oh Come On!!! Damn you Ken Ham!
(August 27, 2014 at 7:28 pm)Blackout Wrote: No offence but it amazes me how this still happens, over here in Europe this type of discrimination would be illegal by definition, no one would actually try to implement this policy.
Well I think all of us here can agree that Americans are really one piece of work.


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RE: Oh Come On!!! Damn you Ken Ham!
(August 27, 2014 at 7:29 pm)Esquilax Wrote: The Ark Park, which the position is advertised as being for, is a for profit business entity and thus falls under non-discrimination laws. The claim that the job opening is an in-house AiG position is directly contradicted by the title of the ad itself.

Except insofar as there is a "bona fide occupational qualification" - it's not entirely clear which way that would go in a lawsuit - leastwise, nor as clear as you or Statler appear to believe. The statement of faith indicates that only a particular type of Christian need apply, and it'll take a court to decide whether that's a BFOQ under Federal law, or whether it's just Ham's preference and its not really necessary to believe the bullshit one sells, provided one is willing to sell it sincerely.
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#30
RE: Oh Come On!!! Damn you Ken Ham!
(August 27, 2014 at 7:33 pm)Zidneya Wrote:
(August 27, 2014 at 7:28 pm)Blackout Wrote: No offence but it amazes me how this still happens, over here in Europe this type of discrimination would be illegal by definition, no one would actually try to implement this policy.
Well I think all of us here can agree that Americans are really one piece of work.

As an American, I can only agree that some of us are.

...or shall we start stereotyping your country, as well?
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