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Oh Come On!!! Damn you Ken Ham!
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 (August 27, 2014 at 6:01 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote:(August 27, 2014 at 5:22 pm)ManMachine Wrote: You Americans are crazy... For once Waldork has a point.... people like him are stupid...not crazy.   RE: Oh Come On!!! Damn you Ken Ham!
August 27, 2014 at 7:00 pm
(This post was last modified: August 27, 2014 at 7:10 pm by Statler Waldorf.)
(August 27, 2014 at 6:09 pm)Rhythm Wrote: A paycheck. “You creationists are evil and abusing children by lying to them!...but I’ll gladly work for you if you pay me.” Are atheists ever consistent? Quote: Same reason someone might want to build a religious theme park. The Creation Museum and AIG’s role in the Ark Encounter are both non-profit, nice try though. (August 27, 2014 at 6:12 pm)Minimalist Wrote: For once Waldork has a point.... people like him are stupid...not crazy. Says the old man who has made a habit of getting destroyed in debates by someone he claims is “stupid”. My favorite was when I asked you for a reference and you linked me to somebody’s blog. Classic Min. (August 27, 2014 at 6:59 pm)Esquilax Wrote: Here's the thing: there are laws in place preventing employee discrimination, as there should be. Job openings for the Ark Encounter, phrased as a tourist attraction in order to apply for tax incentives, require that the applicant be young earth creationist. This is not a legal thing to do. I am sorry but that is simply incorrect ESq. A person’s views on the age and formation of the Earth are not a protected class (try being young-Earth and getting a job at the Museum of Natural History). As a non-public entity AIG can hire whomever they want and for whatever reason they like. 
I'm kinda ok with this. Wonder if it's fun.
 RE: Oh Come On!!! Damn you Ken Ham!
August 27, 2014 at 7:23 pm
(This post was last modified: August 27, 2014 at 7:26 pm by Zidneya.)
No offence but it amazes me how this still happens, over here in Europe this type of discrimination would be illegal by definition, no one would actually try to implement this policy.
Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you
(August 27, 2014 at 7:00 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: I am sorry but that is simply incorrect ESq. A person’s views on the age and formation of the Earth are not a protected class (try being young-Earth and getting a job at the Museum of Natural History). It's not just about young earth views. If you look, the application requires you to sign AiG's statement of faith, which is loaded for bear with religious language up to and including acceptance of the christian god and a literal interpretation of the bible. It also asks that you give "salvation testimony," which I don't think I'm remiss in viewing as a statement of one's own christianity. Quote: As a non-public entity AIG can hire whomever they want and for whatever reason they like. The Ark Park, which the position is advertised as being for, is a for profit business entity and thus falls under non-discrimination laws. The claim that the job opening is an in-house AiG position is directly contradicted by the title of the ad itself. (August 27, 2014 at 7:28 pm)Blackout Wrote: No offence but it amazes me how this still happens, over here in Europe this type of discrimination would be illegal by definition, no one would actually try to implement this policy.Well I think all of us here can agree that Americans are really one piece of work.  (August 27, 2014 at 7:29 pm)Esquilax Wrote: The Ark Park, which the position is advertised as being for, is a for profit business entity and thus falls under non-discrimination laws. The claim that the job opening is an in-house AiG position is directly contradicted by the title of the ad itself. Except insofar as there is a "bona fide occupational qualification" - it's not entirely clear which way that would go in a lawsuit - leastwise, nor as clear as you or Statler appear to believe. The statement of faith indicates that only a particular type of Christian need apply, and it'll take a court to decide whether that's a BFOQ under Federal law, or whether it's just Ham's preference and its not really necessary to believe the bullshit one sells, provided one is willing to sell it sincerely. (August 27, 2014 at 7:33 pm)Zidneya Wrote:(August 27, 2014 at 7:28 pm)Blackout Wrote: No offence but it amazes me how this still happens, over here in Europe this type of discrimination would be illegal by definition, no one would actually try to implement this policy.Well I think all of us here can agree that Americans are really one piece of work. As an American, I can only agree that some of us are. ...or shall we start stereotyping your country, as well? |
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