(September 5, 2014 at 6:23 pm)Losty Wrote: I feel like you're confusing a taser with a taser gun. The metal thingys (excuse my lack of vocabulary) hook into your body and you can continue electrocuting the person until they're down and/or electrocute them again if they try to get back up. I've seen it done to some rather large highschoolers. Even then guys usually peed their pants and were down within seconds.

Tasers don't always work on the big guys

http://youtu.be/4DdvkLhdAJE

I like how they opted not to shoot him to death. Very nice video.

How's this Brakes...






Or doesn't it count because the whites were wearing blue?

---

Or this?

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/09/07/wa...p-nothing/

Quote:WATCH: NYPD officers take turns beating Bronx man after search turns up nothing

Quote:Hernandez was charged with disorderly conduct and resisting arrest, however the Bronx DA declined to prosecute the case.

Quote:Jay Heinrich, Hernandez’s attorney, said, “Unfortunately, for young men like Santiago, I think this incident is all too common.”

Hernandez’s attorney said he would be filing a civil suit against the city.

How much money will NYC taxpayers have to fork over before these fucking cops are brought under control?


Or, does this not count either, Brakes?

I'm sure I won't have trouble finding more.

(September 7, 2014 at 9:33 pm)Minimalist Wrote: How's this Brakes...

Or, does this not count either, Brakes?

I'm sure I won't have trouble finding more.

Nope that doesn't count because those men were braking the law and were dealing with police and there is no way that all the cops gathered in that one place because of the guy's skin color.

In my example it was a black mob attacking an innocent working guy at a Kroger grocery store.

Show me a white mob attacking an INNOCENT black bystander.

The blacks in Ferguson and in Memphis are more racist than the whites. Yeah, there are still many racist whites, but they don't gang up and attack innocent black bystanders anymore, not like is happening today with the black racial gangs.

Cops love to shoot people, and maybe they shoot a little quicker and a little easier when the perp is the color of their prejudices, but they don't go on racial gangbanging hunts. The black gangbangers do, and you defend them by avoiding their obvious black racism and then say "oh look at this cop shooting a black knife wielder, he might have been a bit racist, he would have only shot a white guy twenty times instead of forty."

Every race has their haters. Open your eyes and see all of them not just those that fit your own prejudices.

Well said Brakeman.

(September 7, 2014 at 11:08 pm)Brakeman Wrote: Nope that doesn't count because those men were braking the law and

And before someone sends a nastygram about my comprehension, yeah I see the typo that my spell check missed. I do know the difference between "brake" and "break", which should have been used in this situation.

(September 5, 2014 at 6:23 pm)Losty Wrote: I feel like you're confusing a taser with a taser gun. The metal thingys (excuse my lack of vocabulary) hook into your body and you can continue electrocuting the person until they're down and/or electrocute them again if they try to get back up. I've seen it done to some rather large highschoolers. Even then guys usually peed their pants and were down within seconds.

Those are the ones I'm talking about. You can't apply the subsequent shots unless both darts successfully attach on the first shot. I'd lay odds those big high school kids weren't moving targets, or under the kind of stress that lets someone keep coming at you even though they're being shot (according to the officer's account).

The best way of handling this wouldn't have resulted in any news story at all: The cop asking the kids to go to the sidewalk in such a way that they complied without violence. If that was possible in this case, the cop bears some responsibility for not handling the encounter better. But, it could be the case that the only way for there not to be an altercation was for the cop not to tell the kids to get out of the street...but then he's not doing his job. The only single person who definitely had the power to keep this from escalating was Brown, in pretty much every version of what happened.

And I kind of hate to be the one to point this out, because police brutality is a problem, and too many people of every race get shot by cops acting like a paramilitary force, especially from the practice of taking SWAT teams to drug busts. ALL police interactions with civilians should be monitored. It's good for us, it's good for liberty, and I believe it's good for the police, too.

---

(September 5, 2014 at 6:34 pm)Minimalist Wrote:

(September 5, 2014 at 5:29 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: That Brown actually had his hands up in the air is in question. A lot hinges on that. In this day and age, cops should be being filmed whenever they interact with the public.

Yeah - the witnesses who have come forward agree that his hands were up and the cop? Well, the cop hasn't been heard from, has he?

In fact, all we've heard from are a bunch of racist twats who think that if a black kid spits on the sidewalk any time in his life he should be gunned down by a cop at any opportunity.

Reportedly, his story is that Brown 'bum-rushed' him. I'm not under the delusion that I already have more facts on the matter than investigators will have by the time they make the determination on whether Wilson needs to go to trial.

The Ferguson police responded to protesters with tear gas and a tank while carrying rifles and detained reporters. There's more than enough to condemn, no speculation necessary.

Quote:Nope that doesn't count because those men were braking the law and were dealing with police and there is no way that all the cops gathered in that one place because of the guy's skin color.

In my example it was a black mob attacking an innocent working guy at a Kroger grocery store.

I didn't think you'd get it, Brakes. You see....whites don't need to form a mob...they can just call the fucking cops. So much more convenient than getting their own hands dirty.

And then a whole bunch of cops just blow away a guy armed with a fucking pen...and you're okay with that.

(September 9, 2014 at 12:18 am)Minimalist Wrote:

Quote:Nope that doesn't count because those men were braking the law and were dealing with police and there is no way that all the cops gathered in that one place because of the guy's skin color.

In my example it was a black mob attacking an innocent working guy at a Kroger grocery store.

I didn't think you'd get it, Brakes. You see....whites don't need to form a mob...they can just call the fucking cops. So much more convenient than getting their own hands dirty.

And then a whole bunch of cops just blow away a guy armed with a fucking pen...and you're okay with that.

Min,

The difference between your examples and mine is direct racial causation. Whereas your examples have a factor of racism, they are not the only factor. You've yet to show us any concrete examples of a INNOCENT man being mobbed because he is black. There is no white counterpart to the roving black racist mobs. There is no white counterpart to the attack on me in a black concert. Cops always at least start with a perceived crime. They will overlook a completely innocent black man. These black mobs do not overlook a completely innocent white man.

I think it's odd that you would believe the blacks in America aren't more racist. They are raised from parents who really did receive the brunt of white racial bias and bigotry and they grew up in a tough economic environment looking up to white republican privilege in government and amongst themselves they assuage themselves with claims that all of their failures are the fault of the white man's oppression.

Do you really think that the black people of today don't grow up racist against whites? You must think they are quite the magical people. They are just like we are, if they think somebody hates them for their skin color they hate back because of the other's skin color. In your last cartoon, what do you think a black person's feelings would be seeing that cartoon? Do you think that cartoon would incite harmony or reactive racism? Go back and reread the cartoon from the prospective of a young black man. Tell me if it would incite you to go beat up a whitey. That cartoon was written by a white man to other white men to teach the awfulness of racism. We do that now because so many of us see it as a terrible thing. But where is the "Tom the Dancing Bug" type cartoon written by a black man directed at black men's racism? Doesn't exist yet does it?

So far, Whites are the only group that is experiencing profound self reflection of the evils of racism, It has not gotten to a popular movement in the black communities yet. It's easier to for the oppressor to forgive and forget than the oppressee.

fuck tha po lice