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RE: "God's" Way Of Saying
September 19, 2014 at 11:48 am
(September 19, 2014 at 11:46 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: (September 19, 2014 at 11:43 am)StealthySkeptic Wrote: Welcome back! We are about to play Double Jeopardy, and the $64,000 question is: how can a God simultaneously be omnipotent, omnibenevolent, and omniscient and not do jack shit to help the world? If you answer "free will defense," then you lose because that's a point refuted a thousand times!
Well, I think what Frodo meant was that not all Christians consider God to be omnibenevolent, most likely because there are people that haven't earned/don't deserve the unmitigated benevolence of God.
Then, what? Did those people who got crushed by a church (and were probably devout Christians) not earn enough karma points for a painless death?
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RE: "God's" Way Of Saying
September 19, 2014 at 11:48 am
(September 18, 2014 at 10:07 am)KUSA Wrote: It's clear that God is racist.
you may have appoint there Africans do seem to die more regularly than Europeans. The people who live near the Ebola river for example.
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RE: "God's" Way Of Saying
September 19, 2014 at 11:49 am
(September 19, 2014 at 11:48 am)StealthySkeptic Wrote: (September 19, 2014 at 11:46 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Well, I think what Frodo meant was that not all Christians consider God to be omnibenevolent, most likely because there are people that haven't earned/don't deserve the unmitigated benevolence of God.
Then, what? Did those people who got crushed by a church (and were probably devout Christians) not earn enough karma points for a painless death?
I dunno, just saying that I don't believe Frodo is asserting omnibenevolence of God.
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RE: "God's" Way Of Saying
September 19, 2014 at 11:49 am
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(September 19, 2014 at 11:45 am)vorlon13 Wrote: Alex;
What is, "It's all part of his mysterious plan" for $1400
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...or don't. 
(September 19, 2014 at 11:49 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: (September 19, 2014 at 11:48 am)StealthySkeptic Wrote: Then, what? Did those people who got crushed by a church (and were probably devout Christians) not earn enough karma points for a painless death?
I dunno, just saying that I don't believe Frodo is asserting omnibenevolence of God.
I know you weren't agreeing with him. But that's the biggest flaw with his argument, and I'm sure you see that already.
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RE: "God's" Way Of Saying
September 19, 2014 at 11:59 am
Quote:not all Christians consider God to be omnibenevolent
Hey not all xtians considered jesus to be a man who died on a cross. They have all sorts of beliefs and each one is dumber than the next.
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RE: "God's" Way Of Saying
September 19, 2014 at 12:01 pm
(September 19, 2014 at 11:59 am)Minimalist Wrote: Quote:not all Christians consider God to be omnibenevolent
Hey not all xtians considered jesus to be a man who died on a cross. They have all sorts of beliefs and each one is dumber than the next.
That's for sure. My favorite is the Catholic saint the wears Jesus' foreskin as a wedding ring of her 'mystical marriage'.
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RE: "God's" Way Of Saying
September 19, 2014 at 12:30 pm
(September 19, 2014 at 11:43 am)StealthySkeptic Wrote: (September 18, 2014 at 3:26 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: *buzzer sounds*
Welcome back! We are about to play Double Jeopardy, and the $64,000 question is: how can a God simultaneously be omnipotent, omnibenevolent, and omniscient and not do jack shit to help the world? If you answer "free will defense," then you lose because that's a point refuted a thousand times!
Hey I had no problem with this. Funny shiz.
Anyway.. omnibenevolence isn't biblical, and not something any Christian claims (correctly).
To assert that something other should ideally have happened in any given situation, you would have to know a better solution. Now I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that you are not omniscient. KAPOW! Your argument is dead. RIP your argument. End credits.
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RE: "God's" Way Of Saying
September 19, 2014 at 12:42 pm
(September 19, 2014 at 12:30 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: (September 19, 2014 at 11:43 am)StealthySkeptic Wrote: Welcome back! We are about to play Double Jeopardy, and the $64,000 question is: how can a God simultaneously be omnipotent, omnibenevolent, and omniscient and not do jack shit to help the world? If you answer "free will defense," then you lose because that's a point refuted a thousand times!
Hey I had no problem with this. Funny shiz.
Anyway.. omnibenevolence isn't biblical, and not something any Christian claims (correctly).
To assert that something other should ideally have happened in any given situation, you would have to know a better solution. Now I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that you are not omniscient. KAPOW! Your argument is dead. RIP your argument. End credits.
No. Just have to have basic empathy. Boom.
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RE: "God's" Way Of Saying
September 19, 2014 at 12:48 pm
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(September 19, 2014 at 12:30 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Anyway.. omnibenevolence isn't biblical, and not something any Christian claims (correctly).
Hence it would appear nobody in your religion knows what is correct.
I know I know, the Bible. (Except) don't forget that inerrancy and literalism are "not something any Christian claims (correctly)" either.
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RE: "God's" Way Of Saying
September 19, 2014 at 1:17 pm
(September 19, 2014 at 12:48 pm)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: Hence it would appear nobody in your religion knows what is correct.
I know I know, the Bible. (Except) don't forget that inerrancy and literalism are "not something any Christian claims (correctly)" either.
To the uneducated perhaps
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