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The Original Messages of Religion

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The Original Messages of Religion
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RE: The Original Messages of Religion
September 22, 2014 at 11:28 am (This post was last modified: September 22, 2014 at 11:59 am by Clueless Morgan.)
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RE: The Original Messages of Religion
September 22, 2014 at 11:52 am
Quote:a famous quote by the Christian prophet/god is to 'love thy neighbor, as you love thyself' another quote is to 'turn the other cheek' this preaches non-violence when confronted with violence, compassion for our fellow men.
Which is a good way to make sure that people who want to hurt you or take advantage of you can do so without fear of consequence. The golden rule is a platitude that glorifies laziness and timidity. Instead of asking us to consider any situation carefully before acting, we are told to always take a specific course without bothering to take circumstances or intentions into account. A course that puts the needs of another above those of us or our kin without any consideration as to whether or not it is owed or deserved.

Any rule that only works if everyone follows it is doomed to fail, because all you need is one person to decide not to follow it, and he has gained a huge advantage over those who do. There's a reason so few people follow the golden rule, and it's not the reasons given us by religious folk.
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RE: The Original Messages of Religion
September 22, 2014 at 11:55 am
Yeah, the turn the other cheek and give away everything including the shirt off your back only really works if you think the world is going to end in your lifetime. Which Jesus believed.
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RE: The Original Messages of Religion
September 22, 2014 at 6:50 pm (This post was last modified: September 22, 2014 at 6:52 pm by Celestine.)
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RE: The Original Messages of Religion
September 22, 2014 at 7:02 pm (This post was last modified: September 22, 2014 at 7:09 pm by ShaMan.)
(September 22, 2014 at 6:50 pm)Celestine Wrote: People are the only ones capable of harming others, people are the only ones capable of helping others.
Bravo!!!! No religion or spirituality required Smile

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RE: The Original Messages of Religion
September 22, 2014 at 7:07 pm
(September 18, 2014 at 10:43 pm)Celestine Wrote: This is the treasure more valuable than ivory, more valuable than an earth filled with gold! Yet you would forsake it?

Original Message of religion..

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RE: The Original Messages of Religion
September 22, 2014 at 10:45 pm (This post was last modified: September 22, 2014 at 10:46 pm by Thumpalumpacus.)

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RE: The Original Messages of Religion
September 22, 2014 at 10:46 pm (This post was last modified: September 22, 2014 at 10:52 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
The "tree bears no fruit" because you're shit at "growing fruit". Plain and simple. Don't blame it on the tree, don't blame it on the intended customer. It is your own failing, accept that and go from there. Hell, I don't know, maybe if you worked on your positions things would go differently for you.....revolutionary idea, huh? -Or- you could bitch and moan , it's up to you.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: The Original Messages of Religion
September 22, 2014 at 11:09 pm
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RE: The Original Messages of Religion
September 22, 2014 at 11:13 pm (This post was last modified: September 22, 2014 at 11:14 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Perhaps a component of it's value -to you- is missing it? That would certainly explain why your language always revolves around atheists losing it. Some of us "never had it" - so we suffer no loss, others that did "have it" don't feel any loss.

Get it?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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