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Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
If I can find distances that correspond to the golden ratio, connecting a KFC, a wheat field, and a latrine would that be significant? Evidence of a god? Of aliens? What?
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
(September 26, 2014 at 12:03 pm)Bad Wolf Wrote: And this is proof of god, lol

Malachi 3
6 For I am the Lord, I change not;

The same number sequence is repeated throughout all nature, even the shape of the universe.

from http://www.goldennumber.net/solar-system/
Quote:The shape of the Universe itself is a dodecahedron based on Phi

New findings in 2003 based on the study of data from NASA’s Wilkinson Microwave Anisotropy Probe (WMAP) on cosmic background radiation reveal that the universe is finite and shaped like a dodecahedron, a geometric shape based on pentagons, which are based on phi. See the Universe page for more.

are you telling me it's just a coincidence?
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
It is proof that there is a structure to nature, nothing more.
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain

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“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom

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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
(September 26, 2014 at 11:33 am)Huggy74 Wrote:
(September 26, 2014 at 11:16 am)Alex K Wrote: Also

I just measured the lines in your Earth-Moon picture, and the squared length of the upward line over the sideways line is 1.53, not 1.61 Big Grin
It's somewhat close-ish at best.
from http://www.goldennumber.net/solar-system/
Using dimensions from Wikipedia and geometry’s classic Pythagorean Theorem, this is expressed mathematically as follows:

Radius of Earth 6,378.10 1.000 A
Radius of Moon 1,735.97 0.272
Earth + Moon 8,114.07 1.272 B
Hypotenuse 10,320.77 1.618 (Φ) C
Hypotenuse /
(Earth Radius +Moon Radius) 1.618 (Φ) A²+B²=C²

not the best format but you get the jist.

also
http://io9.com/5985588/15-uncanny-exampl...-in-nature

Ah yes, that works perfectly using these numbers, although not if you take the measured mean values for the radii. Still, quite close, I admit.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
(September 26, 2014 at 12:11 pm)Aoi Magi Wrote: Umm I can draw a simple circle and find it existing in more instances than your wiggly line.
Existence of a pattern means that pattern exists, it doesn't show a will, intent, or design.

you dont get it, that wiggly line represents a numbered sequence called the Fibonacci sequence, where you take the last two numbers in the sequence to get the next number, for example.

1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34,55 and so on

this is not limited to shapes, the way your hand is proportioned follows the same sequence, the way tree branches grow also..
Quote:The Fibonacci sequence can also be seen in the way tree branches form or split. A main trunk will grow until it produces a branch, which creates two growth points. Then, one of the new stems branches into two, while the other one lies dormant. This pattern of branching is repeated for each of the new stems. A good example is the sneezewort. Root systems and even algae exhibit this pattern.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
So this sequence is proof of a god how?



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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
(September 26, 2014 at 12:32 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: So this sequence is proof of a god how?

It's shows evidence of intelligent design. If pretty much everything in nature follows the same number sequence take honeybees for example

from http://gwbuzz.com/2013/02/08/honeybee-an...-sequence/

Quote:The Fibonacci numbers are very well represented in honeybees. For example, the if you follow the family tree of honeybees, it follows the fibonacci sequence perfectly. If you taken any hive and follow this pattern, it would look like this:
[Image: screen-shot-2013-02-08-at-1-08-09-pm.png?w=470&h=81]
If you divide the number of female bees by the number of males bees you get 1.618, the golden ratio. This mathematical sequence work for any honeybee hive at any give time. Commonly, honeybee hives are always used to explain the Fibonacci Sequence and Golden Ratio. For more information please click the link below.

what else is there to conclude?
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
Yes Huggy, that is truly an indisputable proof of the existence of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, not gawd
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
(September 26, 2014 at 1:06 pm)Aoi Magi Wrote: Yes Huggy, that is truly an indisputable proof of the existence of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, not gawd

I said, "intelligence"... If the "Flying Spaghetti Monster" is what you acknowledge as intelligence then so be it.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
I think the number 1 and the sequence of natural numbers is even greater evidence for design.
Look at the starsin the sky. How do you count them? 1,2,3,4...and so on.
Look at atoms in any material. How do you count them? 1,2,3,4,...and so on.

And how do you get from one quantity to next? You add 1. Always 1.
Even FSM's noodly appendages must be counted this way.
He based the counting mechanism on himself.
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