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Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
(September 30, 2014 at 12:10 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: first of all, how does this egg-head have access to the most popular swimsuit models?

What do you get if you cross a red herring with an ad hominem?

Your post.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
(September 30, 2014 at 12:46 pm)Rhythm Wrote:
(September 30, 2014 at 12:37 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: So what does this all mean?
That forces capable of manipulating the structure of a visible medium and interpreted from above by a pattern seeking creature as a flat surface in 2d will -always- yield "some shape" that said creature can imagine to be momentous or important......?

Quote:Give me your explanation.
-you've lost your shit?

“If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration.”
― Nikola Tesla
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
(September 30, 2014 at 1:01 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:
(September 30, 2014 at 12:46 pm)Rhythm Wrote: That forces capable of manipulating the structure of a visible medium and interpreted from above by a pattern seeking creature as a flat surface in 2d will -always- yield "some shape" that said creature can imagine to be momentous or important......?

-you've lost your shit?

Quote:“If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration.”
― Nikola Tesla

Please don't bastardize well-known scientists' statements to support your shit. Reminds me of people using Einstein to support their theism.
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
(September 30, 2014 at 1:04 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote:
(September 30, 2014 at 1:01 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:

Please don't bastardize well-known scientists' statements to support your shit. Reminds me of people using Einstein to support their theism.

You still haven't offered your explanation.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
(September 30, 2014 at 1:05 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:
(September 30, 2014 at 1:04 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Please don't bastardize well-known scientists' statements to support your shit. Reminds me of people using Einstein to support their theism.

You still haven't offered your explanation.

Neither have you, you've offered a bunch of bizarre pseudo-science vomiting of garbage ideas and unsubstantiated claims. Just because I don't have an answer doesn't mean your cobbled together post hoc crock has any more credibility.
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
Didn't we have one or two very long threads on how the golden ratio was proof that Islam was the true faith?
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

-Stephen Jay Gould
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
(September 30, 2014 at 12:59 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:
(September 30, 2014 at 12:16 pm)rasetsu Wrote: The ratio 22/34 is 0.647 which is not Phi. As noted in the first article I linked you to, many things that are close to Phi are claimed as being Phi when in fact they're not. Fact checking a couple of your asserted ratios bears out this observation. (On top of that, if we use your chosen figure of 21 Å for the width of the double helix, the width and length of major groove are unequal, unlike claimed in your image in which the two form a perfect square. The fact that the width varies depending on the conditions in which it is being measured makes any use of it for a ratio purely arbitrary, and the ratio results from intentionally choosing specific conditions; that's intelligent design, but not the kind that you are looking for.)
first of all Surgenator posted the measurements of 34/20 and you posted 34/22....

so I think it's safe to take the middle ground an say 34/21 which 34 divided by 21 =1.619

Wrong measurement; he was posting the width of the helix, not the relative lengths of the major and minor groove. And that measurement varied widely depending on conditions, so using it for any "ratio" is useless as the ratio you come up with is dependent on the conditions under which you measure it, making the ratio an artifact of your choice of conditions.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
(September 30, 2014 at 1:10 pm)rasetsu Wrote:
(September 30, 2014 at 12:59 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: first of all Surgenator posted the measurements of 34/20 and you posted 34/22....

so I think it's safe to take the middle ground an say 34/21 which 34 divided by 21 =1.619

Wrong measurement; he was posting the width of the helix, not the relative lengths of the major and minor groove. And that measurement varied widely depending on conditions, so using it for any "ratio" is useless as the ratio you come up with is dependent on the conditions under which you measure it, making the ratio an artifact of your choice of conditions.

First of all the measurements were taken from the length and the width.

secondly, I got the info from howstuffworks.com
Quote:The proportions and measurements of the human body can also be divided up in terms of the golden ratio. DNA molecules follow this sequence, measuring 34 angstroms long and 21 angstroms wide for each full cycle of the double helix
so explain their angle in giving the wrong measurements.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
(September 30, 2014 at 1:23 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:
(September 30, 2014 at 1:10 pm)rasetsu Wrote: Wrong measurement; he was posting the width of the helix, not the relative lengths of the major and minor groove. And that measurement varied widely depending on conditions, so using it for any "ratio" is useless as the ratio you come up with is dependent on the conditions under which you measure it, making the ratio an artifact of your choice of conditions.

First of all the measurements were taken from the length and the width.

secondly, I got the info from howstuffworks.com
Quote:The proportions and measurements of the human body can also be divided up in terms of the golden ratio. DNA molecules follow this sequence, measuring 34 angstroms long and 21 angstroms wide for each full cycle of the double helix
so explain their angle in giving the wrong measurements.

Um..just to let you know...your info is coming from a high school teacher in Serbia who has a bachelor's degree in electrical engineering. Don't you dare consider this info from some sort of expert or peer-reviewed journal.

Seriously..just click through the source links and it's one high school teacher in Serbia with a degree irrelevant to genetics or DNA or anything.
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson
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