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RE: Why Would God Hide?
September 30, 2014 at 1:42 am
(September 30, 2014 at 1:19 am)snowtracks Wrote: i can only give you the facts, not the brains to understand the facts. now, sit down and take notes.
So basically you have no reason to believe what you do, you have no justifications to give, just random assertions.
Why should we care about the things you just claim to be true?
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RE: Why Would God Hide?
September 30, 2014 at 1:44 am
(September 30, 2014 at 1:42 am)Esquilax Wrote: (September 30, 2014 at 1:19 am)snowtracks Wrote: i can only give you the facts, not the brains to understand the facts. now, sit down and take notes.
So basically you have no reason to believe what you do, you have no justifications to give, just random assertions.
Why should we care about the things you just claim to be true? It’s a cogent argument “consciousness comes from that which is conscious”. The term for it is “inferential relationship”.
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RE: Why Would God Hide?
September 30, 2014 at 1:51 am
(September 30, 2014 at 1:44 am)snowtracks Wrote: It’s a cogent argument “consciousness comes from that which is conscious”. The term for it is “inferential relationship”.
It's a bald assertion, is what it is. Especially since, in real terms, we know that consciousness does not come from consciousness: a developing infant gains consciousness over time, from the non-conscious matter that forms them.
Moreover, you could artificially inseminate a brain dead woman using the semen from a brain dead man, and still get a pregnancy. Consciousness simply is not required in the development of consciousness. Your inferential relationship is nothing more than wishful thinking that you pulled out of your ass.
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RE: Why Would God Hide?
September 30, 2014 at 7:40 am
Quote:deader than a door nail to consciousness does not fit in the purely physical world of naturalism; whereas, in a theistic world, self-conscious awareness would be expected as experienced. Consciousness came from that which is conscious.
I'm not sure what that means. Consciousness comes from having a functional brain, which is material. We actually know what part of the brain gives us the ability to reason.
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RE: Why Would God Hide?
September 30, 2014 at 8:10 pm
(September 30, 2014 at 1:51 am)Esquilax Wrote: (September 30, 2014 at 1:44 am)snowtracks Wrote: It’s a cogent argument “consciousness comes from that which is conscious”. The term for it is “inferential relationship”.
It's a bald assertion, is what it is. Especially since, in real terms, we know that consciousness does not come from consciousness: a developing infant gains consciousness over time, from the non-conscious matter that forms them.
Moreover, you could artificially inseminate a brain dead woman using the semen from a brain dead man, and still get a pregnancy. Consciousness simply is not required in the development of consciousness. Your inferential relationship is nothing more than wishful thinking that you pulled out of your ass. what the hell was that? would have to conclude you have descended into madness.
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RE: Why Would God Hide?
September 30, 2014 at 8:16 pm
You'd better dodge out of the way, then.
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RE: Why Would God Hide?
September 30, 2014 at 8:21 pm
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RE: Why Would God Hide?
September 30, 2014 at 8:24 pm
(September 29, 2014 at 11:52 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Indeed my secret must be so closely guarded that even I haven't got the faintest clue what you're dribbling about.
No change there, then. well hypothetically let say mid-way thru the universe’s timeline around 6 bya, nothing but rocks, then suddenly there was a thought. From a naturalistic point of view that would seem to be the highlight moment so far. Just what was that thought (speculation) or is the secret still secured ?
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RE: Why Would God Hide?
September 30, 2014 at 8:36 pm
(September 30, 2014 at 8:24 pm)snowtracks Wrote: (September 29, 2014 at 11:52 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Indeed my secret must be so closely guarded that even I haven't got the faintest clue what you're dribbling about.
No change there, then. well hypothetically let say mid-way thru the universe’s timeline around 6 bya, nothing but rocks, then suddenly there was a thought. From a naturalistic point of view that would seem to be the highlight moment so far. Just what was that thought (speculation) or is the secret still secured ?
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RE: Why Would God Hide?
September 30, 2014 at 8:37 pm
Because he's scared of reality?
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