Would you stop avoiding discussion

(October 10, 2014 at 4:24 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: I don't care when a human becomes a human I just don't like it when people are prevented from living.

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Oh! You don't like it! Well, that's that then. Abortion should definitely be illegal since C4RM5 doesn't "like" it.

Tell you what: you can keep your rather intrusive nose out of my uterus, k?

(October 10, 2014 at 4:31 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: Would you stop avoiding discussion

Would you stop not giving a coherent definition of person?

I think I am being mixed up with an abortion doctor, because my entire point is not for people to get abortions.

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I used the term person to define a human being, sorry if this offended you

It's not a fucking human being

(October 10, 2014 at 4:24 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: I know I foetus can't make choices but this doesn't mean that the human it will become shouldn't be allowed a choice.

"The human it will become." There you said it. It is not human. Should it become human then it should have the rights of a human. BUT until then, it doesn't have any rights and should not be given any nor could it exercise them if it had them.

(October 10, 2014 at 4:24 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: The reason for me opposing it in the absence of my religion is that I don't think it is moral preventing people from living.

There's that word again: people. People have rights. Little bits of people, even if they have the potential (with the help of a human incubator) do not. Why? Because they aren't people.

(October 10, 2014 at 4:24 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: . . . ,so what is your problem with me being against abortion.

Merly that you want to curtail the rights of pregnant women.

(October 10, 2014 at 4:24 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: I don't care when a human becomes a human I just don't like it when people are prevented from living.

I'm afraid that C4ARMS5 just doesn't like it, just doesn't do it for me. As an argument it stinks.

People are prevented from living in the sense that you mean, every month a fertile woman doesn't have sex.

(October 10, 2014 at 4:41 pm)DramaQueen Wrote: It's not a fucking human being

Calm down

Souls don't exist carm

No, I believe a foetus is apart of a human being as it is just apart of human growth.

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(October 10, 2014 at 4:46 pm)DramaQueen Wrote: Souls don't exist carm

And how do you know this