(October 12, 2014 at 2:38 pm)Esquilax Wrote:

(October 12, 2014 at 1:33 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: What ever you say

It's not what I said, kitten. It's what you said, when you admitted that facts don't come into your deliberations at all. Facts are things that are real, and when you believe in things against the facts, you are believing in things that are not real. That's irrational, even delusional.

Crazy people believe in things that aren't real as fervently as you apparently believe in your stance on abortion. We make our diagnoses of mental illness primarily on how well a person's beliefs match up with objective reality, after all.

So what I am mad because I don't like the idea of life's being destroyed, does it mean I am bonkers cause I don't think murder is right.

By calling me a kitten you are slaging me off.

(October 12, 2014 at 10:55 am)C4RM5 Wrote: Exactly that is what religion is, it is now my signature, I don't need facts because God has revealed himself to me and no matter how many facts I give you, you still will seek to disprove it.

You aren't giving any facts, by your own admission. You have no idea how we'll respond to your facts, since you have not offered any. You have told us that you believe, whether you have facts or not. I bet that in any other area of your life, you don't consider that a smart way to go through life. But in the most important one, you throw away common sense and facts and replace it with belief.

How can I expand my beliefs in thinking abortions are wrong.

Quote:If the mother might die, would it be okay

You didn't answer my question

(October 12, 2014 at 4:09 pm)Tonus Wrote:

(October 12, 2014 at 10:55 am)C4RM5 Wrote: Exactly that is what religion is, it is now my signature, I don't need facts because God has revealed himself to me and no matter how many facts I give you, you still will seek to disprove it.

You aren't giving any facts, by your own admission. You have no idea how we'll respond to your facts, since you have not offered any. You have told us that you believe, whether you have facts or not. I bet that in any other area of your life, you don't consider that a smart way to go through life. But in the most important one, you throw away common sense and facts and replace it with belief.

I think being able to trust in something is a positive quality. For instance say for some reason you hanging of the edge of a large drop and someone is ready to pull you back up, do you let them pull you up and have faith or do you ask for factual evidence to prove that they can pull you up?

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(October 12, 2014 at 4:11 pm)DramaQueen Wrote:

Quote:If the mother might die, would it be okay

You didn't answer my question

Not sure

What is it that you are trusting in, when it comes to the belief that a fertilized egg is a person?

I trust the Bible which says no human should take away a life from someone else.

(October 12, 2014 at 4:14 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: I think being able to trust in something is a positive quality. For instance say for some reason you hanging of the edge of a large drop and someone is ready to pull you back up, do you let them pull you up and have faith or do you ask for factual evidence to prove that they can pull you up?

So you believe because you had no choice? Not the best way to build a belief system, but it's consistent with Christianity I guess.

With Christianity you have a choice.

(October 12, 2014 at 4:19 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: I trust the Bible which says no human should take away a life from someone else.

Despite all the genocides promoted, or carried out, by the god of the bible.