I don't have an answer for you guys.

My only thought is if any one involved in Mormonism prays that, they will begin to leave it or detour away from it.

(October 17, 2014 at 7:04 pm)professor Wrote: I don't have an answer for you guys.

Of course not. Because your religion is based on the same bad reasoning they use.

Quote:My only thought is if any one involved in Mormonism prays that, they will begin to leave it or detour away from it.

Mormonism is the fastest growing religion in America according to CBN, a (non-Mormon) Christian website. Fastest Growing

So, it would seem your 'thoughts' are not factual.

Facts are great. You should try them sometime.

Their technique seems to be just as effective for them as yours does for you. And here we are, outside of both of your beliefs systems with no way to discern the difference.

(October 17, 2014 at 6:52 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:

(October 17, 2014 at 6:49 pm)Jenny A Wrote: My question to you both, is what's the difference?

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess that it's because their holy book is fake, and his is real.

Or something like that.

Oh no! A dozen witnessess signed an affidavit that they saw Joseph Smith translate it from gold tablets. And it says it is the word of god. And if you ask god with a sincere heart he will confirm that it is the word of god. How could any Christian not read it and sincerely ask god to tell them that it is the word of god?

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(October 17, 2014 at 7:04 pm)professor Wrote: I don't have an answer for you guys.

My only thought is if any one involved in Mormonism prays that, they will begin to leave it or detour away from it.

Those are the very verses Mormons use to convert people and millions of people have converted by simply asking god sincerely if the Book of Mormon is the word of god. Talk to the nice young men who visit your house in their clean white shirts. They too have read Moroni. It is the heart of the Book of Mormon.

Are you an ex Mormon Jenny?

(October 17, 2014 at 7:21 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: Their technique seems to be just as effective for them as yours does for you. And here we are, outside of both of your beliefs systems with no way to discern the difference.

THIS

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(October 17, 2014 at 7:37 pm)DramaQueen Wrote: Are you an ex Mormon Jenny?

Nope. But I lived in Idaho a while. . .

(October 17, 2014 at 6:52 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:

(October 17, 2014 at 6:49 pm)Jenny A Wrote: My question to you both, is what's the difference?

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess that it's because their holy book is fake, and his is real.

Or something like that.

This is the sort of thing I see making the religiousite's skin crawl. If another 'holy' book is demonstrably false, is it possible my 'holy' book is false??

I think this underscores some of the wacky ecumencalism we see too. If all (most) religions have some truth in them, then maybe mine is less unthinkably false, and rather, just more correct.

Religiousites do not happily or easily entertain thoughts they may be participating in a false religion, contemplating other religions as being false can be uncomfortable too, unless they are highly dissimilar or distant.

(October 17, 2014 at 7:04 pm)professor Wrote: I don't have an answer for you guys.

My only thought is if any one involved in Mormonism prays that, they will begin to leave it or detour away from it.

Isn't it possible that you simply haven't prayed in the right way, so you're deceived by your ideas when really the Mormon god is the real one? I'm sure many Mormons would say the same about you: that they if you honestly sought god you would leave your religion or detour away from it.

That's the whole damn problem, there's absolutely no rubric to which to compare religious experiences and no possible method of determining who is 'right'.

I told you I do not know.
But this I do know, by experience, understanding and time-
No one will ever be justified by their own goodness, and self righteousness (good works) is the foundation of ALL non-Christian beliefs and that includes the fake Christian ones like the Mormons.

With regard to your Mormon quote, Satan quoted the scripture to Jesus,
and he continues to use some truth mixed in to his concoctions of religion.

I stand on Jesus words:
"If anyone truly determines to DO God's will- he will know My teaching, whether it comes from man or from God".

You all have as good a shot as anyone to get off the bleachers and get onto the playing field and DO the above.
I suspect it goes right along with seeking.

Who are the true Christians?

(October 17, 2014 at 8:03 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: This is the sort of thing I see making the religiousite's skin crawl. If another 'holy' book is demonstrably false, is it possible my 'holy' book is false??

I think this underscores some of the wacky ecumencalism we see too. If all (most) religions have some truth in them, then maybe mine is less unthinkably false, and rather, just more correct.

Religiousites do not happily or easily entertain thoughts they may be participating in a false religion, contemplating other religions as being false can be uncomfortable too, unless they are highly dissimilar or distant.

Exactly, and as you've probably already seen below, the Professor has decided the Book of Mormon must be from Satan.

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(October 17, 2014 at 8:45 pm)professor Wrote: I told you I do not know.
But this I do know, by experience, understanding and time-
No one will ever be justified by their own goodness, and self righteousness (good works) is the foundation of ALL non-Christian beliefs and that includes the fake Christian ones like the Mormons.

With regard to your Mormon quote, Satan quoted the scripture to Jesus,
and he continues to use some truth mixed in to his concoctions of religion.

I stand on Jesus words:
"If anyone truly determines to DO God's will- he will know My teaching, whether it comes from man or from God".

You all have as good a shot as anyone to get off the bleachers and get onto the playing field and DO the above.
I suspect it goes right along with seeking.

I'm sure the Mormons have truly determined to do gods will. And they are really, really sure that the Book of Mormon is an additional and better source of god's word.

And since both you and the Mormons use the same method to determine the will of god, who is to tell between you?