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RE: Atheists only vote please: Do absolute MORAL truths exist? Is Rape ALWAYS "wr...
October 31, 2014 at 12:40 am
(October 31, 2014 at 12:37 am)Tsun Tsu Wrote: WE MUST accept the fact that either universal laws are absolute and always true, or we have to justify rape and child abuse as being sometimes actually good... and we just cant do that.
Do you really believe if you say it a few more times that this false choice you've created will become true? Nothing is at risk on account of the subjective nature of morality. You're just getting a little over excited.
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October 31, 2014 at 12:43 am
(October 31, 2014 at 12:33 am)whateverist Wrote: He's definitely got a script and little ear for nuance.
Of course it cant be that I am simply a pretty educated man, having a conversation regarding atheist thought and its ultimate ramifications... You seem paranoid very... Now can we grow up, throw out the accusations and move on with the discussion?
You might try addressing the actual topic of discussion and not your paranoid fears about me reading from some script. If you would like to TEST me, you post a debate challenging me on the following topic...
"God created, has been better tested and verified scientifically than the Big Bang/String/ and Dark Matter"
...It wont be a script that defeats you, itll be me 
Now.. about this topic... give to me a justification for saying "rape is sometimes good". The antithesis of my belief that it is ALWAYS ABSOLUTELY AND UNIVERSALLY wrong.
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October 31, 2014 at 12:46 am
No one needs to do any such thing. You have made a claim. Now do work.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Atheists only vote please: Do absolute MORAL truths exist? Is Rape ALWAYS "wr...
October 31, 2014 at 12:46 am
(October 31, 2014 at 12:40 am)whateverist Wrote: (October 31, 2014 at 12:37 am)Tsun Tsu Wrote: WE MUST accept the fact that either universal laws are absolute and always true, or we have to justify rape and child abuse as being sometimes actually good... and we just cant do that.
Do you really believe if you say it a few more times that this false choice you've created will become true? Nothing is at risk on account of the subjective nature of morality. You're just getting a little over excited.
No... I obviously believe it is true even if you and I both disagreed with it. You don't? Be clear please and give me an example
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RE: Atheists only vote please: Do absolute MORAL truths exist? Is Rape ALWAYS "wrong"?
October 31, 2014 at 12:47 am
Good grief. Better to hold a discussion with a turnip.
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October 31, 2014 at 12:49 am
(October 31, 2014 at 12:46 am)Rhythm Wrote: No one needs to do any such thing. You have made a claim. Now do work.
So you disagree with me that rape is always wrong, but youre not willing to stand on this and provide an example? Whats there for me to work to prove then? According to my stats, not a single atheist believes that rape is absolutely and universally wrong despite opinion, time, or space. Also according to my stats, nearly everyone in the world disagrees. Iv not found a single theist of any type or religion that agrees with the atheist view on this
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RE: Atheists only vote please: Do absolute MORAL truths exist? Is Rape ALWAYS "wr...
October 31, 2014 at 12:51 am
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(October 31, 2014 at 12:46 am)Tsun Tsu Wrote: No... I obviously believe it is true even if you and I both disagreed with it. You don't? Be clear please and give me an example
Yes, I don't agree that the alternative to thinking rape is objectively wrong is thinking that it is sometimes okay. Another possibility is that thinking it wrong is a fact about me and my dispositions, a subjective truth. I still find rape repulsive .. and not just in case some xtian genie has ordained it.
(October 31, 2014 at 12:49 am)Tsun Tsu Wrote: (October 31, 2014 at 12:46 am)Rhythm Wrote: No one needs to do any such thing. You have made a claim. Now do work.
So you disagree with me that rape is always wrong, but youre not willing to stand on this and provide an example? Whats there for me to work to prove then? According to my stats, not a single atheist believes that rape is absolutely and universally wrong despite opinion, time, or space. Also according to my stats, nearly everyone in the world disagrees. Iv not found a single theist of any type or religion that agrees with the atheist view on this
Derp, derp derp derp.
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October 31, 2014 at 12:53 am
(October 31, 2014 at 12:47 am)whateverist Wrote: Good grief. Better to hold a discussion with a turnip.
AHHH we've reached the point of no answer, forcing an AdHom attack, good ..and you forgot the quesiton... :p
I asked, "I obviously believe it is true even if you and I both disagreed with it. You don't? Be clear please and give me an example"
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RE: Atheists only vote please: Do absolute MORAL truths exist? Is Rape ALWAYS "wr...
October 31, 2014 at 12:53 am
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As I've told you many times, whether or not I agree or disagree with you is irrelevant (whether I;m a member of your group or "the other group" the dynamic would still exist between both groups). If I was going to stop letting the air out of your balloon at some point I would have done so by now.
According to your imaginary stats? The ones that you pretend to generate with your abysmal fucking poll? Give it a rest....
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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October 31, 2014 at 12:56 am
(October 31, 2014 at 12:51 am)whateverist Wrote: (October 31, 2014 at 12:46 am)Tsun Tsu Wrote: No... I obviously believe it is true even if you and I both disagreed with it. You don't? Be clear please and give me an example
Yes, I don't agree that the alternative to thinking rape is objectively wrong is thinking that it is sometimes okay. Another possibility is that thinking it wrong is a fact about me and my dispositions, a subjective truth. I still find rape repulsive .. and not just in case some xtian genie has ordained it.
(October 31, 2014 at 12:49 am)Tsun Tsu Wrote: So you disagree with me that rape is always wrong, but youre not willing to stand on this and provide an example? Whats there for me to work to prove then? According to my stats, not a single atheist believes that rape is absolutely and universally wrong despite opinion, time, or space. Also according to my stats, nearly everyone in the world disagrees. Iv not found a single theist of any type or religion that agrees with the atheist view on this
Derp, derp derp derp.
"Derp" is usually what I get when one runs out of anything intelligent to say. Do you intend on "derping" through the rest of the thread?
Now.. can you give me an instance when rape is not absolutely and universally "wrong"? Yes or "derp"?
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