(November 15, 2014 at 7:50 am)A Theist Wrote: Well shit, DP! All those great accomplishments and the democrats still got trounced?! Damn Voters!

Actually, I blame the Democratic candidates for their political cowardice and piss-poor campaigning. No wonder we had the lowest turnout since 1942.

So congratulations.

I would hope Democratic leaders will learn from their mistakes but I'm realistic. I actually expect them to run further to the right and pack their patented GOP-lite strategy with all kinds of spine-free milquetoasty goodness that they're so rightly infamous for.

Quote:Jobs and the economy were still number one in the polls as a concern with voters.

I only hope the Republicans don't shut down the government again. The last one cost our economy some $24 billion and nearly destroyed America. Luckily, the relatively sane faction "blinked" at the last minute and America was saved.

I'm honestly worried because they're already talking about another shut down. How many Tea Baggers are in their ranks this time (I haven't checked if it's gone up or not)? Will they actually vote to destroy America this time or will they just limit it to another costly shut down?

Quote:then came the Benghazi cover up

Can you tell me what the Benghazi "scandal" is supposed to be about? I've never understood it.

Quote:This was after Obama's boast that, "Bin Laden is dead and Al Qeada is on the run".

Yeah, because everyone knows that means "we're totally safe now and we'll never, ever be attacked again by this group of fanatics willing to die just to kill others who can blend in and strike anywhere."

Quote:his lack of will to confront Putin's military encroachment into the Ukraine

What? What else do you want? Do you want us to send troops to the Ukraine? Fight Russian troops directly? You do realize that nuclear war would be bad, right?

Quote:and elsewhere, his lack of will to confront Iran and Syria,

Iran and Syria? What do you want? Do you want us to back the ISIS and Al Qaida rebels against Syria? Do you want us to be more adversarial with Iran when their Shiite friends in Iraq are embattled with ISIS?

Frankly, I think we need to rethink our relations with both, since they're enemies of ISIS. Sure, our enemy's enemies aren't our friends here but we were willing to be friend's with Stalin in order to stop Hitler. Sometimes world politics is a matter of making choices and setting priorities. I'm hoping we have some discrete negotiations going on here to coordinate against our mutual enemies.

Frankly, I would have hoped conservatives would have learned some hard lessons from toppling Saddam Hussein and unleashing the whirlwind that we're now reaping. Secular dictators may be brutal but they're far preferable to the religious fanatics that they oppose.

Quote:the loss of confidence and respect for America by our European and our Middle Eastern allies

Actually, that's profoundly improved over the bumbling, bullying Bush years.

Quote:GOP accomplishments and reforms can finally move forward now

Do tell what they are. I'm keen to know.

(November 15, 2014 at 7:50 am)A Theist Wrote: Well shit, DP! All those great accomplishments and the democrats still got trounced?! Damn Voters! Somehow, I just don't think the voters were feeling it. Especially, in their paychecks. Yeah, people are getting jobs, but not like the higher paying jobs they had before. They're under employed and they feel it. Jobs and the economy were still number one in the polls as a concern with voters.

You forgot to mention that labor force participation under Obama and the democunts is in free-fall.



http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS11300000

(November 15, 2014 at 9:17 am)A Theist Wrote:

(November 15, 2014 at 8:30 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: The world is watching and preying sane people are elected in America. By sane we mean anyone but Republicans who seem to be a parody of right wing religious movement come to life.

What you mean, is that you and others like you, are intolerant and bigoted against anyone who doesn't goose step to your leftist and naive worldview. I just hope America doesn't end up being a parody of Europe.

What is so wrong with Europe?

Seriously, I have seen Americans say things like this before, yet in many ways Europe is superior to the USA, especially in healthcare.
America has a very right wing political system but left wing sensibilities.
You seem like a nice chap. misguided but nice. If I were to talk to you about leftwing qualities there is a very good chance that you would agree with most because you are not a monster.

Left wing sensibilites are about working for the good of all and is the polar opposite of the right wing politics you seem to endorse, which is all about helping the few who have the money.

(November 16, 2014 at 5:14 am)downbeatplumb Wrote:

(November 15, 2014 at 9:17 am)A Theist Wrote: What you mean, is that you and others like you, are intolerant and bigoted against anyone who doesn't goose step to your leftist and naive worldview. I just hope America doesn't end up being a parody of Europe.

What is so wrong with Europe?

Seriously, I have seen Americans say things like this before, yet in many ways Europe is superior to the USA, especially in healthcare.
America has a very right wing political system but left wing sensibilities.
You seem like a nice chap. misguided but nice. If I were to talk to you about leftwing qualities there is a very good chance that you would agree with most because you are not a monster.

Left wing sensibilites are about working for the good of all and is the polar opposite of the right wing politics you seem to endorse, which is all about helping the few who have the money.

I'm a conservative, but I'm not hard right, and I'm definitely no far left radical. No one side has all the answers. Somewhere between the polar opposites there has to be sensibilites that come closer to working for the good of all....but nobody seems willing enough to compromise and negotiate.

(November 16, 2014 at 8:15 am)A Theist Wrote: I'm a conservative, but I'm not hard right, and I'm definitely no far left radical. No one side has all the answers. Somewhere between the polar opposites there has to be sensibilites that come closer to working for the good of all....but nobody seems willing enough to compromise and negotiate.

Obama was and got blocked by republicans at every turn.

(November 15, 2014 at 10:39 am)Chas Wrote:

(November 15, 2014 at 9:17 am)A Theist Wrote: What you mean, is that you and others like you, are intolerant and bigoted against anyone who doesn't goose step to your leftist and naive worldview. I just hope America doesn't end up being a parody of Europe.

Have you actually looked at some of the fucking retarded, delusional Republican twats who got elected? Some of them are really batshit crazy.

My guess is that he has and he is just as batshit crazy as they are.

The lunatics will be running the asylum.

(November 16, 2014 at 11:20 am)Minimalist Wrote:

(November 15, 2014 at 10:39 am)Chas Wrote: Have you actually looked at some of the fucking retarded, delusional Republican twats who got elected? Some of them are really batshit crazy.

The lunatics will be running the asylum.

No. Not anymore. The voters got rid of them in the mid-terms.

Damn the republicans for not believing in Gruber's lies hook line and sinker like everbuddy else did !!

Damn them to fucking HELL !!

Quote:No. Not anymore. The voters got rid of them in the mid-terms.

You dumb fuck.

Joni Ernst. Dumb as a bag of cunt hair. Just like you.

Quote:Ernst is often described as the harbinger of a tea party revival. She supports a "personhood" amendment that could make all abortions illegal and endanger birth control and in vitro fertilization. She has called for President Barack Obama's impeachment and thinks states should be free to nullify federal laws. She has vowed to vote for a federal constitutional amendment to ban same-sex marriage, and she buys into the conspiracy theory that the United Nations' "Agenda 21" is a secret plan to usurp democracy.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014...uce-braley