ill just say this if you need god to do good in your life you are a horrible terrible person. because why would someone like me with no god
do good things. is it so terrible i'm doing good without a third party like god i mean by a means state how i am a terrible person and state how
atheists are. Atheists tend to be kinder, less judgmental, caring, helpful, humanists human beings that actual by all means are good people.

(November 18, 2014 at 11:01 am)dyresand Wrote: ill just say this if you need god to do good in your life you are a horrible terrible person. because why would someone like me with no god
do good things. is it so terrible i'm doing good without a third party like god i mean by a means state how i am a terrible person and state how
atheists are. Atheists tend to be kinder, less judgmental, caring, helpful, humanists human beings that actual by all means are good people.

That's hilarious, you state at the end of your post atheist are less judgmental but you start it being judgmental. God states in His scriptures that no man is good, not one. Being the omniscient God He would know.

As for atheist being such good people then why do some slave trade women and children everyday of the week.

GC

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(November 18, 2014 at 8:02 am)Piscinin Wrote:

(November 18, 2014 at 12:39 am)Godschild Wrote: You're right no one does, you were created to help those in need and you have failed miserably. Left to man's desire to help those that are starving around the world it want get done. The Church does more than atheist ever have for these people.
The Southern Baptist Disaster Relief, is the third largest in the world, preceded only by the Salvation Army and Red Cross. So you see Christians lead even above nations in disaster relief. God does care and moves through His people to help those in need.

GC

Everyone is a better person than a christian and I`ll prove it to you:

Every little good thing I do, I do it because I think it would be a good thing for society. Christians only do it because some book tells them to...and out of fear.

Ah...and your god couldn`t give a flying fuck about people in need. If anything, he hits them harder, like Tahiti. Fuck your imaginary friend and his good deeds, nowhere to be seen.

You need to bring proof of your trash statement.

GC

(November 18, 2014 at 1:37 pm)Godschild Wrote:

(November 18, 2014 at 11:01 am)dyresand Wrote: ill just say this if you need god to do good in your life you are a horrible terrible person. because why would someone like me with no god
do good things. is it so terrible i'm doing good without a third party like god i mean by a means state how i am a terrible person and state how
atheists are. Atheists tend to be kinder, less judgmental, caring, helpful, humanists human beings that actual by all means are good people.

That's hilarious, you state at the end of your post atheist are less judgmental but you start it being judgmental. God states in His scriptures that no man is good, not one. Being the omniscient God He would know.

As for atheist being such good people then why do some slave trade women and children everyday of the week.

GC

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Then god is a hypocrite if he says there no man does good. what ended slavery man. what said racism is wrong man. who said the bible is for very reason man. who said rape is wrong man. i do good things out of the kindness of my heart i do it so people can be happy. to say i'm no because a book told you and if i believed this i would do things to help people out of fear. i help people not out of fear to generally help people. i had a friend long time friend call me up because she needed food i had a money-gram so her and kids could eat. so am i bad person no what fuck is wrong with you to say i am a bad person because the bible says so. you are a joke to say i am bad. A bad person is a person who goes kills, rapes, steals, lies, that is a true horrible person.

How am i being judgmental if that is a common fact that most theists are judgmental of atheists. Its literally the same shit i heard before. "you need god to be good if your a atheists you are a immoral sinner and do no good." - random street preacher 5

If only "some" people (or atheists - that point isn't very clear) do things such as "slave trade women and children every day of the week", that implies that the majority does not. Thus, if we're going to play the 'poisoning the well' game, we can tar every xtian with the child rapist brush, with exactly as much justification.

(November 18, 2014 at 1:47 pm)dyresand Wrote:

(November 18, 2014 at 1:37 pm)Godschild Wrote: That's hilarious, you state at the end of your post atheist are less judgmental but you start it being judgmental. God states in His scriptures that no man is good, not one. Being the omniscient God He would know.

As for atheist being such good people then why do some slave trade women and children everyday of the week.

GC

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Then god is a hypocrite if he says there no man does good.

I nor God said that, what was said that no man is good, this is in comparison to our righteous God.
All men have the potential to do some good.

Quote: what ended slavery man.

Slavery is going stronger today than at any time in history, and atheist are leading the way, you need to get the facts of today's world before making such statements.

Quote:what said racism is wrong man.

Man and his sinful self started racism and racism is still going strong around the world. The scriptures say love thy neighbor as thyself, there was no distinguishing between races.

Quote:who said the bible is for very reason man.

I have no idea what you are saying here.

Quote:who said rape is wrong man.

Really, man says rape is wrong, I guess you have been hiding in a cave. Men continue to rape every single day, yes, we do punish those who rape but it hasn't been a deterrent. Not only has it not been a deterrent, most places have lowered the amount of time one spends in prison for this crime.

Quote: i do good things out of the kindness of my heart i do it so people can be happy. to say i'm no because a book told you and if i believed this i would do things to help people out of fear. i help people not out of fear to generally help people.

I did not say you do not do good, I'm glad you do, my brother is an atheist and he does good and he does things not so good.
Christians do not say atheist do no good and it would be a stupid statement by a Christian to do so.
Christians also do not do good out of fear, I should know I'm around them all the time and they do good out of their love for others and God. You've been fed a line of bull by those who hate Christians and you bought into it because you believe that's what atheist are suppose to do. Your wrong.

Quote: i had a friend long time friend call me up because she needed food i had a money-gram so her and kids could eat. so am i bad person no what fuck is wrong with you to say i am a bad person because the bible says so. you are a joke to say i am bad. A bad person is a person who goes kills, rapes, steals, lies, that is a true horrible person.

I had a co-worker to tell me he and his family had no food to eat, because the mother spent all the money on drugs. I talked to my church and they bought them a weeks worth of food. Most people do good when they see those they care about in need. The scriptures tell Christians if our enemy is in need we should feed and cloth them, can you do that for someone who hates you.
Shape up here, I nor the scriptures say that you have not nor will do good, as a matter of fact the scriptures say they even those who are very bad do some good. So most all people do some good. I agree people who do those things and are not remorseful are horrible people.

Quote:How am i being judgmental if that is a common fact that most theists are judgmental of atheists. Its literally the same shit i heard before. "you need god to be good if your a atheists you are a immoral sinner and do no good." - random street preacher 5

In your previous post to me, you started it off with a judgement of me. Christians do tend to judge nonbelievers, and quite often unrightly. We are to tell others why what they do is wrong according to the scriptures, just as we are to tell other Christians when they do wrong. Unfortunately atheist take this the wrong way and believe we are judging them, when in actuality the are being judged by the scriptures ie. the word of God.
You probably are reading more into what some Christians are saying to you, because we are all sinners, the difference between you and Christians, Christians are forgiven their sins by God because we choose to have a relationship with God through Christ.

GC

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(November 18, 2014 at 1:55 pm)Stimbo Wrote: If only "some" people (or atheists - that point isn't very clear) do things such as "slave trade women and children every day of the week", that implies that the majority does not. Thus, if we're going to play the 'poisoning the well' game, we can tar every xtian with the child rapist brush, with exactly as much justification.

You're being ridiculous and very childish, it implies that some people slave trade women and children and the way I see it they can't believe in Christ and do such a horrible inhuman thing as that. Thus they are in my opinion nonbelievers, people who want to be known as atheist.

GC

(November 18, 2014 at 6:47 pm)Godschild Wrote:

(November 18, 2014 at 1:47 pm)dyresand Wrote: Then god is a hypocrite if he says there no man does good.

I nor God said that, what was said that no man is good, this is in comparison to our righteous God.
All men have the potential to do some good.

Quote: what ended slavery man.

Slavery is going stronger today than at any time in history, and atheist are leading the way, you need to get the facts of today's world before making such statements.

Quote:what said racism is wrong man.

Man and his sinful self started racism and racism is still going strong around the world. The scriptures say love thy neighbor as thyself, there was no distinguishing between races.

Quote:who said the bible is for very reason man.

I have no idea what you are saying here.

Quote:who said rape is wrong man.

Really, man says rape is wrong, I guess you have been hiding in a cave. Men continue to rape every single day, yes, we do punish those who rape but it hasn't been a deterrent. Not only has it not been a deterrent, most places have lowered the amount of time one spends in prison for this crime.

Quote: i do good things out of the kindness of my heart i do it so people can be happy. to say i'm no because a book told you and if i believed this i would do things to help people out of fear. i help people not out of fear to generally help people.

I did not say you do not do good, I'm glad you do, my brother is an atheist and he does good and he does things not so good.
Christians do not say atheist do no good and it would be a stupid statement by a Christian to do so.
Christians also do not do good out of fear, I should know I'm around them all the time and they do good out of their love for others and God. You've been fed a line of bull by those who hate Christians and you bought into it because you believe that's what atheist are suppose to do. Your wrong.

Quote: i had a friend long time friend call me up because she needed food i had a money-gram so her and kids could eat. so am i bad person no what fuck is wrong with you to say i am a bad person because the bible says so. you are a joke to say i am bad. A bad person is a person who goes kills, rapes, steals, lies, that is a true horrible person.

I had a co-worker to tell me he and his family had no food to eat, because the mother spent all the money on drugs. I talked to my church and they bought them a weeks worth of food. Most people do good when they see those they care about in need. The scriptures tell Christians if our enemy is in need we should feed and cloth them, can you do that for someone who hates you.
Shape up here, I nor the scriptures say that you have not nor will do good, as a matter of fact the scriptures say they even those who are very bad do some good. So most all people do some good. I agree people who do those things and are not remorseful are horrible people.

Quote:How am i being judgmental if that is a common fact that most theists are judgmental of atheists. Its literally the same shit i heard before. "you need god to be good if your a atheists you are a immoral sinner and do no good." - random street preacher 5

In your previous post to me, you started it off with a judgement of me. Christians do tend to judge nonbelievers, and quite often unrightly. We are to tell others why what they do is wrong according to the scriptures, just as we are to tell other Christians when they do wrong. Unfortunately atheist take this the wrong way and believe we are judging them, when in actuality the are being judged by the scriptures ie. the word of God.
You probably are reading more into what some Christians are saying to you, because we are all sinners, the difference between you and Christians, Christians are forgiven their sins by God because we choose to have a relationship with God through Christ.

GC

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(November 18, 2014 at 1:55 pm)Stimbo Wrote: If only "some" people (or atheists - that point isn't very clear) do things such as "slave trade women and children every day of the week", that implies that the majority does not. Thus, if we're going to play the 'poisoning the well' game, we can tar every xtian with the child rapist brush, with exactly as much justification.

You're being ridiculous and very childish, it implies that some people slave trade women and children and the way I see it they can't believe in Christ and do such a horrible inhuman thing as that. Thus they are in my opinion nonbelievers, people who want to be known as atheist.

GC

People back then believed in god and enslaved people whats the point? even in the bible god and jesus turned a blind eye unless they were the chosen meaning the jewish. otherwised jesus said treat your masters great and one day you will die and be in heaven and be free. you see the problem here.. because it took man to end slavery not divine judgment.

You, GC, are not a true believer if you don't stone homosexuals, adulterers and children who don't obey their parents.

(November 18, 2014 at 7:10 pm)Piscinin Wrote: You, GC, are not a true believer if you don't stone homosexuals, adulterers and children who don't obey their parents.

Like so many Christians, it would seem, perhaps "stone" has been misread as "bone"?

(November 18, 2014 at 7:13 pm)Beccs Wrote:

(November 18, 2014 at 7:10 pm)Piscinin Wrote: You, GC, are not a true believer if you don't stone homosexuals, adulterers and children who don't obey their parents.

Like so many Christians, it would seem, perhaps "stone" has been misread as "bone"?

It`s the only way for Jesus to enter these stubborn creatures.

(November 18, 2014 at 7:28 pm)Piscinin Wrote: It`s the only way for Jesus to enter these stubborn creatures.