Well, this advert is kind of convincing. So, hell all the way.

(November 21, 2014 at 3:20 pm)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote:

(November 21, 2014 at 2:33 pm)Godschild Wrote: The Bible where else, hell is a place of torment and by reasonable thought no pleasure will be allowed. Simple really.

GC

So when asked how you could know that there is no drinking and eating in this mythical hell place, your answer is basically circular reasoning and 'because I just know!'

How convincing.

Also i asked someone i know who is a theist and said
could you eat in heaven and he told me you don't need to eat
but you could. If i was in hell i want a turkey sub on rye.

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(November 21, 2014 at 3:23 pm)abaris Wrote: Well, this advert is kind of convincing. So, hell all the way.

I WANNA GO TO HELL!!!

(November 21, 2014 at 2:52 pm)Losty Wrote:

(November 21, 2014 at 2:33 pm)Godschild Wrote: The Bible where else, hell is a place of torment and by reasonable thought no pleasure will be allowed. Simple really.

GC

Hell is a lake of fire where non believers are sent to burn for eternity and by reasonable thought does not exist. Simple really.

Really why do you believe people will burn in hell, hell is described as a dark place, where there's no light. What reasonable thought determined hell doesn't exist.

GC

In the bible, Yahweh sometimes has a habit of "giving people over to sin", so maybe that's really what hell is. Putting them in a place away from heaven, and giving them over to sin. Which really wouldn't be bad at all.

(November 21, 2014 at 3:31 pm)Chad32 Wrote: In the bible, Yahweh sometimes has a habit of "giving people over to sin", so maybe that's really what hell is. Putting them in a place away from heaven, and giving them over to sin. Which really wouldn't be bad at all.

out of gods way and gods mind.

A summary of my thoughts from a conversation with Vosur.
I think hell would secretly be a fun place. Lucifer's only mistake was refusing to bow. Right? Or was it wanting to be as powerful as god? Why should that mean he's a bad guy? Maybe he doesn't like being created by a douchebag and then asked to worship him. Sounds like we have something in common. It also seems like all the fun people go to hell. Considering that blasphemy is the only unforgivable sin...there won't be many bad people in hell. So...it's probably a fun place. The bible doesn't say satan will be doing the punishment I don't think, but it does say he was given power. So he could zap away the fire and start a fun party. Seems just as rational of an interpretation of the bible to me. Considering god's history of being an evil jealous cuntface I would say my interpretation is even more rational.

(November 21, 2014 at 3:11 pm)Chad32 Wrote: If it's an eternity of torture, I would assume that my mind would eventually become so shattered that I'd be incapable of struggling and screaming anymore.

If it's just an eternity of separation from Yahweh, life would be much like it is on earth.

You actually know what it's like to be separated from God.
Hell is never referred to as torture except by those who see themselves qualified to be there. But your description of hell is much closer to what it will be like, except that the struggling and screaming will never end, the mind will be eternally lasting.

GC

(November 21, 2014 at 3:30 pm)Godschild Wrote:

(November 21, 2014 at 2:52 pm)Losty Wrote: Hell is a lake of fire where non believers are sent to burn for eternity and by reasonable thought does not exist. Simple really.

Really why do you believe people will burn in hell, hell is described as a dark place, where there's no light. What reasonable thought determined hell doesn't exist.

GC

It's not a lake of fire?
Revelation 20:10 - And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet [are], and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

Revelation 21:8 - But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Revelation 20:15 - And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Revelation 20:14 - And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

Matthew 25:41 - Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

Umm...the reasonable thought that people cannot survive for eternity after they're already dead.

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(November 21, 2014 at 3:37 pm)Godschild Wrote:

(November 21, 2014 at 3:11 pm)Chad32 Wrote: If it's an eternity of torture, I would assume that my mind would eventually become so shattered that I'd be incapable of struggling and screaming anymore.

If it's just an eternity of separation from Yahweh, life would be much like it is on earth.

You actually know what it's like to be separated from God.
Hell is never referred to as torture except by those who see themselves qualified to be there. But your description of hell is much closer to what it will be like, except that the struggling and screaming will never end, the mind will be eternally lasting.

GC

I've been living separate from god for some time now. I find it quite refreshing.

(November 21, 2014 at 3:31 pm)Chad32 Wrote: In the bible, Yahweh sometimes has a habit of "giving people over to sin", so maybe that's really what hell is. Putting them in a place away from heaven, and giving them over to sin. Which really wouldn't be bad at all.

Again you are closer to the truth than you might think. The one part you missed is people will understand how bad every sin is and have great and agonizing remorse.

GC

(November 21, 2014 at 3:37 pm)Godschild Wrote:

(November 21, 2014 at 3:11 pm)Chad32 Wrote: If it's an eternity of torture, I would assume that my mind would eventually become so shattered that I'd be incapable of struggling and screaming anymore.

If it's just an eternity of separation from Yahweh, life would be much like it is on earth.

You actually know what it's like to be separated from God.
Hell is never referred to as torture except by those who see themselves qualified to be there. But your description of hell is much closer to what it will be like, except that the struggling and screaming will never end, the mind will be eternally lasting.

GC

Lucifer refused to bow to god he knew how god really is.
Lucifer would only punish those who would really need it so in hell people would get what came to them if the did some horrible things when they were alive. he wouldn't torture those who did god without good reason. sure blaspheme god pretty much Lucifer is your best friend after that. you just cant say Lucifer is all evil. Lucifer was a angel he lived with god he gotten free will and god said bow to me and his first actions pretty much he didn't do what he was commanded to do. you know why he knows how god really is and what type of being god really is. so enjoy time in heaven im going to were all the cool people are going to be and the fun.