(November 19, 2014 at 2:43 pm)ChadWooters Wrote:

(November 14, 2014 at 2:16 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Why? By which moral standard do you judge this?

By what other standard could you judge?

Love and Compassion is not a trait of religions - they are traits of sentient humans.

If is impossible to claim that any group of humans has exclusive rights to these actions - and there are millions of humans who have acted that way - of all different beliefs or lack of.

And one can legitimately point out people of all beliefs who acted in the opposite manner too

(November 14, 2014 at 9:32 am)Piscinin Wrote: Hello, i`m new here, but i`m motivated

I have a question for christians, but it`s valid for every religious person.

Let`s assume you become convinced there has to be a God who watches over everything you do. Before you choose your faith, wouldn`t it be reasonable to research every single belief in the world before choosing?

I mean, why choose something only because it`s popular in your area?

The one thing which cannot be gotton away from, is, there is plenty of sufficient scientific evidence based on reality that there is and has to be : A Personal theistic Creator/Designer for our Universe. This is obvious from creation and all the leftover effects that make up a reality of the highly personal, intelligence, and information laden biological entities. You never ever get such things from an impersonal Force, from Nothing, from raw Materials, from raw Chemicals , from the unproven speculation of multi universes . You get what we have ONLY from a WILLFUL Being who has a Mind and abilities to pull it off . All the 'big bang' explosions since time began wouldn't be enough to give us the personal, the intelligent designed Cosmos , the razor edge fine tuning of Life enabling Constants for us to be here, or the huge amount of complex information (1,000 volumes of an encyclopedia worth of information) found in each DNA molecule giving instructions in the form of an alphabet for a cell to construct in a very certain way.

Im glad to see you have a thirst for the truth, and its going to lead you to God if you truly want the truth AND if you are willing to go where it leads. This will help you on your sincere journey my Friend : http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/answers.html

And this is a must have for $4.80 used copy which will fairly analyze which worldview is more reasonable and logical to follow : http://www.amazon.com/Dont-Have-Enough-F...1581345615

(November 22, 2014 at 12:39 pm)YouCanCallMeDave Wrote: The one thing which cannot be gotton away from, is, there is plenty of sufficient scientific evidence based on reality that there is and has to be : A Personal theistic Creator/Designer for our Universe. This is obvious from creation and all the leftover effects that make up a reality of the highly personal, intelligence, and information laden biological entities. You never ever get such things from an impersonal Force, from Nothing, from raw Materials, from raw Chemicals , from the unproven speculation of multi universes . You get what we have ONLY from a WILLFUL Being who has a Mind and abilities to pull it off . All the 'big bang' explosions since time began wouldn't be enough to give us the personal, the intelligent designed Cosmos , the razor edge fine tuning of Life enabling Constants for us to be here, or the huge amount of complex information (1,000 volumes of an encyclopedia worth of information) found in each DNA molecule giving instructions in the form of an alphabet for a cell to construct in a very certain way.

Heavy on the assertions, completely lacking in any actual scientific evidence. This is just the argument from personal incredulity/ignorance: "I can't imagine how this could have come about without god, therefore it's impossible." It's a fallacy.

If you've got anything substantive, now's the time to say it. I just... really doubt you have anything substantive.

Quote:And this is a must have for $4.80 used copy which will fairly analyze which worldview is more reasonable and logical to follow : http://www.amazon.com/Dont-Have-Enough-F...1581345615

And we end on a Frank Turek recommendation. In some ways that's not surprising; that pair relies on the same fallacies you do.

(November 22, 2014 at 12:39 pm)YouCanCallMeDave Wrote: Im glad to see you have a thirst for the truth, and its going to lead you to God if you truly want the truth AND if you are willing to go where it leads. This will help you on your sincere journey my Friend : http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/answers.html

And this is a must have for $4.80 used copy which will fairly analyze which worldview is more reasonable and logical to follow : http://www.amazon.com/Dont-Have-Enough-F...1581345615

You're done with selling your apologist website and now a book in every post you make?

Good, if you have a moment to climb from the high horse you're riding, you might actually think about presenting your evidence of god instead of making blatant assertions. And don't start with the bible. Been there, done that about a thousand times. It's not evidence, but a book made up by bronze age goat fuckers.

(November 14, 2014 at 11:10 pm)Godschild Wrote: I do not know what the others hear but the Methodist and Seventh Day Adventist are Christians and would hear from the same one true God.

Considering the propensity for seventh day asshats to vehemently condemn every other christer sect, especially the kathy-licks, I'd have to argue that. I was dragged to their Saturday bullshit fests for years and heard (from the pulpit on many occasions) that the anti-christ will come from the papacy and that other christers of other faiths have never spoken to or been spoken to by gawd.

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(November 15, 2014 at 11:36 am)Parkers Tan Wrote:

(November 15, 2014 at 3:34 am)Godschild Wrote: Yes, God's voice is a great comfort and leads me to many decisions and understanding of many things.

GC

Oh, so you need that voice in your head for comfort and guidance?

You couldn't find comfort and guidance anywhere else?

He hasn't tried. He likes the crutches.

(November 22, 2014 at 12:39 pm)YouCanCallMeDave Wrote: The one thing which cannot be gotton away from, is, there is plenty of sufficient scientific evidence based on reality that there is and has to be : A Personal theistic Creator/Designer for our Universe.

Excellent, being that there's plenty it shouldn't be difficult to pick one item amongst the many and elaborate.

Quote: This is obvious from creation and all the leftover effects that make up a reality of the highly personal, intelligence, and information laden biological entities. You never ever get such things from an impersonal Force, from Nothing, from raw Materials, from raw Chemicals , from the unproven speculation of multi universes .

Why not, and how would you know what -never- happens. You been around that long? Is there something preventing it that you're aware of and would be willing to share?

Quote:You get what we have ONLY from a WILLFUL Being who has a Mind and abilities to pull it off . All the 'big bang' explosions since time began wouldn't be enough to give us the personal, the intelligent designed Cosmos , the razor edge fine tuning of Life enabling Constants for us to be here, or the huge amount of complex information (1,000 volumes of an encyclopedia worth of information) found in each DNA molecule giving instructions in the form of an alphabet for a cell to construct in a very certain way.

Seems that to make such a statement you'd have to know how a willful being, with mind and abilities actually pulled that off. You'd have to be able to establish that the universe was actually fine tuned, that there was a tuner - and that "information" was a product of something- rather than a description of something.

Quote:Im glad to see you have a thirst for the truth, and its going to lead you to God if you truly want the truth AND if you are willing to go where it leads. This will help you on your sincere journey my Friend : http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/answers.html

And this is a must have for $4.80 used copy which will fairly analyze which worldview is more reasonable and logical to follow : http://www.amazon.com/Dont-Have-Enough-F...1581345615

Hawking wares, eh? lol.....If I removed all of your links would you even bother to post? Can't stand uninvited salesmen........

(November 22, 2014 at 12:39 pm)YouCanCallMeDave Wrote: The one thing which cannot be gotton away from, is, there is plenty of sufficient scientific evidence based on reality that there is and has to be : A Personal theistic Creator/Designer for our Universe.

Hey, did you get around to posting this evidence you claim to have, yet?

(November 23, 2014 at 8:17 am)Parkers Tan Wrote:

(November 22, 2014 at 12:39 pm)YouCanCallMeDave Wrote: The one thing which cannot be gotton away from, is, there is plenty of sufficient scientific evidence based on reality that there is and has to be : A Personal theistic Creator/Designer for our Universe.

Hey, did you get around to posting this evidence you claim to have, yet?

No. , not yet. You see.....Im not like the other Theists who you run across --- I have adopted a new way of dispensing with the scientific evidence to Atheists. But it requires the atheist being qualified to receive it before I dispense it since precious few professed atheists really want the evidence / precious few wouldn't allow the evidence to have any effect on their apriori-commitment to atheism / precious few atheists arent willing to surrender their life to anyone else but themselves even if there was a Creator for the universe / precious few professed atheists aren't interested in the real truth and instead would never cash in their pseudo science beliefs / and most atheists enjoy playing a charade game with themselves as well as with Theists who are sincerely concerned about their eternity.

That said, I have an official QUALIFICATION TEST FOR ATHEISTS consisting of a few questions to be answered which are an absolute necessary mandate to determine IF the professed Atheist should get the evidence.

Now, the typical whining reply when I declare the above to an atheist is :' Awwwwe , you just don't have the scientific evidence to show us ' (and other similar hostile guff) . If the Person wishes to go with that then that is fine as I take a pass on them and encourage them to quit being idle about the most vital issue ever and to do a personal google investigation themselves for the evidences since its readily available anyway. For the Atheist who passes my Qualification Test, then it is that person who gets the evidence from myself which includes Me spending as much time with the Individual as he/she requires. But , what I refuse to do is to enter into a futile exchange with your all too common Atheist who is a complete time waster , not interested in truth , and is only interested in playing the charade of an atheistic worldview to bolster the many immoral lifestyles that compete for his/her enslavement. (aka : Total autonomy to live as one likes) .

This is my newest approach and its either my way or the Google- it -for -yourself Highway. Regards.

(November 23, 2014 at 10:49 am)YouCanCallMeDave Wrote: What do u think of my approach ?

(November 23, 2014 at 10:56 am)abaris Wrote:

(November 23, 2014 at 10:49 am)YouCanCallMeDave Wrote: What do u think of my approach ?

Thanks for demonstrating your immature persona. Ill be sure and include you on my list of non contact from here on out. Regards.