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RE: Science Keeps Working
December 10, 2014 at 9:10 pm
(December 10, 2014 at 6:01 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: To be honest I have looked into it and read about it but personally it just doesn't cut it. It doesn't feel or sound plausible But you've read the Bible and found it to be just fine and dandy?
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
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RE: Science Keeps Working
December 10, 2014 at 9:13 pm
(December 9, 2014 at 4:54 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
Regardless of all the might, could, couldn't, conspiracies, twisting, doubts, etc., the FACT is, it is possible. It is PROVEN possible.
You make people miserable and there's nothing they can do about it, just like god.
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RE: Science Keeps Working
December 10, 2014 at 9:56 pm
(December 10, 2014 at 3:26 pm)professor Wrote: Oh, Tonus, I walked away from my Catholic indoctrination forever. Very good! It's a first step. Keep walking, you'll eventually outpace whichever one took its place. I know you can do it!
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
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RE: Science Keeps Working
December 11, 2014 at 5:17 am
(This post was last modified: December 11, 2014 at 5:18 am by robvalue.)
It's a bad idea to make decisions and then never review them now and again, in spite of new evidence, or because you refuse to view readily available evidence. That goes for everything.
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RE: Science Keeps Working
December 11, 2014 at 9:36 am
(December 10, 2014 at 6:01 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: To be honest I have looked into it and read about it but personally it just doesn't cut it. It doesn't feel or sound plausible The fun thing about reality is that it doesn't operate based on what humanity finds plausible or not.
It does what it does, and it's our responsibility to try and figure it out.
Some people don't find it 'plausible' that time travels at a different speed in orbit than it does on the surface. But it does, and reality isn't going to alter that if it makes them uncomfortable.
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RE: Science Keeps Working
December 11, 2014 at 10:07 am
(December 10, 2014 at 6:01 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: To be honest I have looked into it and read about it but personally it just doesn't cut it. It doesn't feel or sound plausible
“The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it.”
― Neil deGrasse Tyson
"How is it that a lame man does not annoy us while a lame mind does? Because a lame man recognizes that we are walking straight, while a lame mind says that it is we who are limping." - Pascal
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RE: Science Keeps Working
December 11, 2014 at 10:29 am
(December 10, 2014 at 6:01 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: To be honest I have looked into it and read about it but personally it just doesn't cut it. It doesn't feel or sound plausible
This is why fucking idiots like Jim Inhofe are repeatedly elected to high office. Willful ignorance is cancerous to our society.
Jesus was wrong. The meek won't inherit the earth, morons will.
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RE: Science Keeps Working
December 11, 2014 at 10:31 am
C4RM is young and seems a bit more willing than most to entertain the idea of learning, so I feel there's hope for him yet 
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RE: Science Keeps Working
December 11, 2014 at 10:39 am
(December 11, 2014 at 10:31 am)robvalue Wrote: C4RM is young and seems a bit more willing than most to entertain the idea of learning, so I feel there's hope for him yet
For C4RM's sake I hope your optimism is proven correct. I'm not going to hold my breath as long as he's dismissing scientific arguments because they don't feel right.
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RE: Science Keeps Working
December 11, 2014 at 12:10 pm
But feeling is so much easier than learning.
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